(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[1800]
PW[Go81]PB[DumbBot]BR[29k]DT[2005-04-10]EV[First KGS Computer Go Tournament]RO[1]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Go81 [?\]: GTP Engine for Go81 (white): Go81 version 1.7.1
DumbBot [29k?\]: GTP Engine for DumbBot (black): Dumbbot version 0.3.12
]RE[W+118.50]
;B[qc]CR[qc]BL[1797.782]C[Tapani [?\]: Good luck!
]
;W[dj]CR[dj]WL[1784.395]
;B[qq]CR[qq]BL[1787.213]
;W[qg]CR[qg]WL[1767.894]
;B[cq]CR[cq]BL[1776.716]C[kestrel [?\]: slowest game of the three
]
;W[op]CR[op]WL[1753.592]
;B[cc]CR[cc]BL[1766.018]C[trogdor [-\]: a measure of quality. ;=
]
;W[pi]CR[pi]WL[1739.140]C[Tapani [?\]: Clearly, seems like the others do not care about using all the available time...
]
;B[co]CR[co]BL[1755.471]
;W[do]CR[do]WL[1725.047]C[trogdor [-\]: much nicer to follow a slow game.
]
;B[oq]CR[oq]BL[1744.561]C[Tapani [?\]: Go81's opening is a bit unorthodox today.
kestrel [?\]: my PC fan is winding up to speed - DB's getting hot :-)
]
;W[lq]CR[lq]WL[1710.973]
;B[np]CR[np]BL[1733.637]
;W[nr]CR[nr]WL[1697.177]C[Tapani [?\]: :-)
]
;B[pp]CR[pp]BL[1723.432]
;W[qn]CR[qn]WL[1683.449]
;B[oo]CR[oo]BL[1713.155]
;W[eq]CR[eq]WL[1669.923]
;B[dq]CR[dq]BL[1702.685]
;W[cn]CR[cn]WL[1656.500]
;B[bo]CR[bo]BL[1692.070]
;W[pl]CR[pl]WL[1643.108]
;B[cm]CR[cm]BL[1681.500]
;W[el]CR[el]WL[1629.975]
;B[dn]CR[dn]BL[1670.633]C[kestrel [?\]: ladder on !
]
;W[ie]CR[ie]WL[1617.030]
;B[eo]CR[eo]BL[1659.578]C[kestrel [?\]: db doesn't know ladders - it'll get caught later on
]
;W[ed]CR[ed]WL[1604.130]
;B[dp]CR[dp]BL[1648.477]C[Tapani [?\]: I just implemented some ladder code yesterday, I hope it does not crash because of it. ;-)
]
;W[or]CR[or]WL[1591.253]
;B[bn]CR[bn]BL[1637.353]
;W[pf]CR[pf]WL[1578.815]
;B[er]CR[er]BL[1626.791]
;W[kd]CR[kd]WL[1566.336]C[kestrel [?\]: not a late code change!  I'd never do that ;-)
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]BL[1616.270]C[trogdor [-\]: never again. :)
]
;W[je]CR[je]WL[1553.887]C[Tapani [?\]: Yep, and I even have to leave after two hours and let it run.
]
;B[ep]CR[ep]BL[1605.717]C[kestrel [?\]: brave :-)
Tapani [?\]: Quite small moves these two
]
;W[pb]CR[pb]WL[1541.521]
;B[nq]CR[nq]BL[1595.083]
;W[df]CR[df]WL[1529.592]
;B[ck]CR[ck]BL[1584.012]C[kestrel [?\]: sounds like simplebot and daftbot have missed the start :-( shame, they are more db's level
]
;W[nm]CR[nm]WL[1517.564]
;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[1573.031]
;W[oc]CR[oc]WL[1505.345]C[trogdor [-\]: :/
]
;B[jq]CR[jq]BL[1562.240]C[Tapani [?\]: They were not registered, even. http://kgs.kiseido.com/fi_FI/tournEntrants.jsp?sort=n&id=82
]
;W[ci]CR[ci]WL[1493.485]
;B[bl]CR[bl]BL[1551.119]
;W[fc]CR[fc]WL[1481.543]C[Tapani [?\]: Also, FStoned is not here. :-(
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]BL[1540.060]C[kestrel [?\]: an overlooked email apparently - lucky this isn't for money.  We'll have another one soon
]
;W[ek]CR[ek]WL[1470.016]C[kestrel [?\]: yeah - where's FStoned?
]
;B[cj]CR[cj]BL[1529.587]
;W[di]CR[di]WL[1458.356]
;B[fn]CR[fn]BL[1519.247]
;W[gl]CR[gl]WL[1447.094]C[kestrel [?\]: death by moyo?
]
;B[ir]CR[ir]BL[1508.506]
;W[md]CR[md]WL[1436.122]
;B[ip]CR[ip]BL[1497.480]
;W[pr]CR[pr]WL[1425.309]C[Tapani [?\]: This is a really weird game. :-)
]
;B[br]CR[br]BL[1487.292]
;W[oe]CR[oe]WL[1414.670]
;B[in]CR[in]BL[1476.929]
;W[jk]CR[jk]WL[1404.201]
;B[jm]CR[jm]BL[1466.367]
;W[gd]CR[gd]WL[1393.852]C[kestrel [?\]: i'd like those corners a bit safer soon
]
;B[kp]CR[kp]BL[1455.748]
;W[qr]CR[qr]WL[1383.613]
;B[lp]CR[lp]BL[1444.986]
;W[ii]CR[ii]WL[1373.474]
;B[qo]CR[qo]BL[1434.126]
;W[rq]CR[rq]WL[1363.557]
;B[qp]CR[qp]BL[1423.019]
;W[ll]CR[ll]WL[1353.796]
;B[mo]CR[mo]BL[1412.804]
;W[ol]CR[ol]WL[1343.967]
;B[jo]CR[jo]BL[1402.631]
;W[kl]CR[kl]WL[1334.244]C[kestrel [?\]: do the corners, DB!
]
;B[rn]CR[rn]BL[1392.351]
;W[rr]CR[rr]WL[1324.814]
;B[mq]CR[mq]BL[1381.782]C[Tapani [?\]: Looks like Go81 is starting to play safe, I hope not too safe...
]
;W[pn]CR[pn]WL[1315.456]
;B[lr]CR[lr]BL[1371.140]
;W[lj]CR[lj]WL[1306.231]
;B[kq]CR[kq]BL[1360.349]
;W[hl]CR[hl]WL[1297.224]
;B[qm]CR[qm]BL[1349.340]
;W[on]CR[on]WL[1288.117]C[Tapani [?\]: both are ignoring the corners...
]
;B[rm]CR[rm]BL[1338.479]
;W[be]CR[be]WL[1279.220]
;B[qk]CR[qk]BL[1327.375]
;W[ff]CR[ff]WL[1270.586]
;B[kn]CR[kn]BL[1317.011]
;W[pa]CR[pa]WL[1262.142]
;B[so]CR[so]BL[1306.453]
;W[re]CR[re]WL[1253.726]
;B[cp]CR[cp]BL[1295.865]
;W[ql]CR[ql]WL[1245.325]C[kestrel [?\]: that's what'll decide it then - who wakes up first :-)
]
;B[en]CR[en]BL[1285.264]
;W[ig]CR[ig]WL[1236.692]
;B[rk]CR[rk]BL[1274.883]
;W[mb]CR[mb]WL[1228.465]
;B[ho]CR[ho]BL[1264.114]
;W[bi]CR[bi]WL[1220.348]
;B[gr]CR[gr]BL[1253.241]
;W[il]CR[il]WL[1212.338]
;B[ri]CR[ri]BL[1242.241]
;W[sk]CR[sk]WL[1204.339]
;B[sj]CR[sj]BL[1231.251]
;W[rl]CR[rl]WL[1196.667]
;B[sl]CR[sl]BL[1220.918]
;W[mg]CR[mg]WL[1188.961]
;B[sm]CR[sm]BL[1210.631]
;W[qh]CR[qh]WL[1181.407]
;B[ak]CR[ak]BL[1200.183]
;W[pk]CR[pk]WL[1173.827]C[kestrel [?\]: it's a bit too concerned with one group - hmm, wonder how to fix that?
]
;B[dl]CR[dl]BL[1189.764]
;W[pj]CR[pj]WL[1166.388]
;B[hm]CR[hm]BL[1179.198]
;W[im]CR[im]WL[1158.967]
;B[gm]CR[gm]BL[1168.624]
;W[ic]CR[ic]WL[1151.441]
;B[rg]CR[rg]BL[1158.151]
;W[rf]CR[rf]WL[1144.276]
;B[sg]CR[sg]BL[1147.314]
;W[rh]CR[rh]WL[1137.009]
;B[mm]CR[mm]BL[1136.582]C[Tapani [?\]: I have one heuristic: playing close to both black's and white's areas is good.
]
;W[ml]CR[ml]WL[1130.045]
;B[lm]CR[lm]BL[1125.516]
;W[sh]CR[sh]WL[1123.055]
;B[fl]CR[fl]BL[1114.532]
;W[sf]CR[sf]WL[1116.252]
;B[fk]CR[fk]BL[1104.338]
;W[fj]CR[fj]WL[1109.660]C[kestrel [?\]: bust in! wreck that moyo!
]
;B[gk]CR[gk]BL[1093.930]C[kestrel [?\]: yeah!
]
;W[gj]CR[gj]WL[1102.943]
;B[hk]CR[hk]BL[1083.641]
;W[hi]CR[hi]WL[1096.225]
;B[ik]CR[ik]BL[1073.361]
;W[jl]CR[jl]WL[1089.739]
;B[jj]CR[jj]BL[1062.847]
;W[ij]CR[ij]WL[1083.334]C[kestrel [?\]: aw!
]
;B[fm]CR[fm]BL[1052.254]
;W[kj]CR[kj]WL[1076.936]C[kestrel [?\]: maybe the corners now DB?
]
;B[ji]CR[ji]BL[1041.649]
;W[jh]CR[jh]WL[1070.730]
;B[ki]CR[ki]BL[1030.851]
;W[kh]CR[kh]WL[1064.427]C[kestrel [?\]: oh dear - what did I say about ladders?
]
;B[li]CR[li]BL[1020.159]
;W[nn]CR[nn]WL[1058.260]C[Tapani [?\]: Yep...
]
;B[lh]CR[lh]BL[1009.329]
;W[lg]CR[lg]WL[1052.238]
;B[mi]CR[mi]BL[998.348]
;W[mj]CR[mj]WL[1046.380]
;B[ni]CR[ni]BL[988.205]
;W[nj]CR[nj]WL[1040.517]C[kestrel [?\]: some huge dead groups in the Neuron game
]
;B[em]CR[em]BL[977.066]C[Tapani [?\]: My ladder code I did yesterday was only about avoiding being captured in a ladder. So no crash here...
]
;W[kg]CR[kg]WL[1034.792]
;B[dk]CR[dk]BL[966.794]
;W[ej]CR[ej]WL[1029.122]
;B[am]CR[am]BL[956.464]
;W[oi]CR[oi]WL[1023.626]
;B[nh]CR[nh]BL[945.947]
;W[ng]CR[ng]WL[1018.156]C[kestrel [?\]: yeah DB can attack in ladders but doesn't read ahead to the conclusion - does Go81?
]
;B[oh]CR[oh]BL[935.410]C[Tapani [?\]: They both seem to know that M1 is alive (in the Neuron game), that's cool.
]
;W[og]CR[og]WL[1012.756]
;B[ap]CR[ap]BL[924.829]
;W[ph]CR[ph]WL[1007.501]
;B[nk]CR[nk]BL[914.084]
;W[mh]CR[mh]WL[1002.369]C[kestrel [?\]: yep - that's quite tricky
]
;B[if]CR[if]BL[903.211]
;W[hf]CR[hf]WL[997.218]
;B[nc]CR[nc]BL[892.297]C[Tapani [?\]: Go81 reads only a single line and only when being the receiving one.
]
;W[jf]CR[jf]WL[992.162]C[tsikkeh [4k\]: well, now m1 died
kestrel [?\]: loserbot - what do you think of my new name for db?
]
;B[od]CR[od]BL[881.421]C[kestrel [?\]: :-(
]
;W[nd]CR[nd]WL[987.183]
;B[pd]CR[pd]BL[870.395]
;W[mc]CR[mc]WL[982.347]
;B[nb]CR[nb]BL[860.235]
;W[nl]CR[nl]WL[977.517]C[tsikkeh [4k\]: maybe self-loathing bot? you could make it output self-loathing sentences at random intervals
]
;B[ob]CR[ob]BL[849.868]
;W[pc]CR[pc]WL[972.864]
;B[qb]CR[qb]BL[838.715]
;W[qd]CR[qd]WL[968.248]C[kestrel [?\]: that's cutting - where was your smiley?
]
;B[cs]CR[cs]BL[828.338]
;W[pe]CR[pe]WL[963.738]
;B[fs]CR[fs]BL[817.844]
;W[oa]CR[oa]WL[959.188]
;B[li]CR[li]BL[807.394]
;W[na]CR[na]WL[954.820]
;B[km]CR[km]BL[796.428]
;W[mn]CR[mn]WL[950.427]C[tsikkeh [4k\]: smileys are boring
]
;B[js]CR[js]BL[786.152]
;W[qa]CR[qa]WL[946.127]
;B[rc]CR[rc]BL[775.453]
;W[ra]CR[ra]WL[941.786]C[Tapani [?\]: It seems that it is much easier to make a bot using Monte Carlo. At least to some level.
]
;B[rd]CR[rd]BL[764.792]
;W[ki]CR[ki]WL[937.632]
;B[ms]CR[ms]BL[753.897]C[Tapani [?\]: I recall that DumbBot is not Monte Carlo, is it?
]
;W[mi]CR[mi]WL[933.538]
;B[aq]CR[aq]BL[743.044]
;W[lh]CR[lh]WL[928.918]C[kestrel [?\]: no - bit of a mixture at the moment - ripe for another re-write
]
;B[aj]CR[aj]BL[732.643]
;W[ai]CR[ai]WL[925.069]
;B[sp]CR[sp]BL[721.508]
;W[ln]CR[ln]WL[921.283]C[kestrel [?\]: it's a bit confused between search and stronger evalution
]
;B[ks]CR[ks]BL[711.280]C[kestrel [?\]: or I am rather
]
;W[sq]CR[sq]WL[917.406]
;B[ds]CR[ds]BL[700.177]
;W[bj]CR[bj]WL[913.787]C[kestrel [?\]: going for strong global reader next with some local search
]
;B[qi]CR[qi]BL[689.784]
;W[bk]CR[bk]WL[910.118]
;B[al]CR[al]BL[679.448]
;W[ns]CR[ns]WL[906.582]C[Tapani [?\]: I started with some tactical local searches but it got so slow that I rewrote everything without them.
]
;B[ko]CR[ko]BL[668.993]
;W[si]CR[si]WL[903.078]
;B[cl]CR[cl]BL[658.500]
;W[qj]CR[qj]WL[899.582]C[kestrel [?\]: duh
]
;B[qe]CR[qe]BL[647.966]
;W[rj]CR[rj]WL[896.101]C[Tapani [?\]: Now the only local search is the ladder code from yesterday.
]
;B[sk]CR[sk]BL[637.475]
;W[qf]CR[qf]WL[892.487]
;B[ro]CR[ro]BL[627.089]
;W[rs]CR[rs]WL[889.068]
;B[mr]CR[mr]BL[616.511]
;W[dd]CR[dd]WL[888.887]C[kestrel [?\]: I don't understand the force-field around c17
Tapani [?\]: What about the top left corner?
]
;B[cf]CR[cf]BL[605.692]
;W[kb]CR[kb]WL[888.692]
;B[dg]CR[dg]BL[594.886]
;W[ce]CR[ce]WL[888.494]
;B[ef]CR[ef]BL[584.080]
;W[de]CR[de]WL[888.296]C[kestrel [?\]: it's gone instant
kestrel [?\]: low on time?
]
;B[eg]CR[eg]BL[573.280]
;W[db]CR[db]WL[888.105]
;B[cg]CR[cg]BL[562.463]
;W[no]CR[no]WL[887.604]
;B[lo]CR[lo]BL[551.950]
;W[cb]CR[cb]WL[887.405]C[Tapani [?\]: It thinks its winning.
]
;B[po]CR[po]BL[541.171]
;W[bb]CR[bb]WL[887.201]
;B[fe]CR[fe]BL[530.367]
;W[ee]CR[ee]WL[887.003]
;B[gf]CR[gf]BL[519.575]
;W[ge]CR[ge]WL[886.827]
;B[fg]CR[fg]BL[508.750]
;W[fd]CR[fd]WL[886.628]C[Tapani [?\]: It does the same if it has less than 1 minute left.
]
;B[ff]CR[ff]BL[497.947]
;W[hj]CR[hj]WL[886.435]
;B[hg]CR[hg]BL[487.142]
;W[gh]CR[gh]WL[886.243]C[kestrel [?\]: db will try and make that group live
]
;B[gg]CR[gg]BL[476.333]
;W[pq]CR[pq]WL[886.044]
;B[fh]CR[fh]BL[465.532]
;W[ib]CR[ib]WL[885.847]
;B[hh]CR[hh]BL[454.729]
;W[gi]CR[gi]WL[885.594]
;B[ih]CR[ih]BL[443.971]
;W[pd]CR[pd]WL[885.198]
;B[dc]CR[dc]BL[433.376]
;W[od]CR[od]WL[884.988]C[wms [3k\]: I wish *somebody* would hurry up & take the last point
]
;B[he]CR[he]BL[422.584]
;W[hd]CR[hd]WL[884.796]
;B[le]CR[le]BL[411.781]
;W[eb]CR[eb]WL[884.597]
;B[bc]CR[bc]BL[400.978]
;W[ne]CR[ne]WL[884.401]
;B[ke]CR[ke]BL[390.166]
;W[nf]CR[nf]WL[884.200]C[kestrel [?\]: they've got 20 mins to find it
]
;B[ld]CR[ld]BL[379.368]
;W[nh]CR[nh]WL[884.006]
;B[kc]CR[kc]BL[368.567]
;W[jd]CR[jd]WL[883.810]
;B[lc]CR[lc]BL[357.766]
;W[nb]CR[nb]WL[883.608]
;B[lb]CR[lb]BL[346.960]
;W[mf]CR[mf]WL[883.417]
;B[jb]CR[jb]BL[336.147]
;W[lk]CR[lk]WL[883.225]C[kestrel [?\]: db will leave it cos it reduces the libs on that group
]
;B[ka]CR[ka]BL[325.349]
;W[kf]CR[kf]WL[882.986]
;B[ja]CR[ja]BL[314.588]
;W[jj]CR[jj]WL[882.791]
;B[la]CR[la]BL[303.779]
;W[jc]CR[jc]WL[882.594]
;B[ha]CR[ha]BL[292.978]
;W[hc]CR[hc]WL[882.399]
;B[gb]CR[gb]BL[282.173]
;W[fb]CR[fb]WL[882.204]
;B[af]CR[af]BL[271.370]
;W[fa]CR[fa]WL[881.896]
;B[ad]CR[ad]BL[260.676]
;W[ei]CR[ei]WL[881.691]
;B[ag]CR[ag]BL[249.882]
;W[dh]CR[dh]WL[881.493]C[Tapani [?\]: No room for two eyes now
]
;B[bh]CR[bh]BL[239.081]
;W[da]CR[da]WL[881.321]
;B[ch]CR[ch]BL[228.248]
;W[ba]CR[ba]WL[881.126]C[kestrel [?\]: happy db is trying to join things up though - too little too late, but the right idea
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]BL[217.407]
;W[ab]CR[ab]WL[880.947]
;B[sb]CR[sb]BL[206.621]
;W[pm]CR[pm]WL[880.753]C[kestrel [?\]: I'll have to try and spread the attention around it's groups more
]
;B[me]CR[me]BL[195.821]
;W[rp]CR[rp]WL[880.564]C[kestrel [?\]: hooray - there you go wms
]
;B[op]CR[op]BL[185.006]
;W[]WL[880.564]C[wms [3k\]: Yes, at last. :-)
]
;B[]BL[185.006]TW[aa][ca][ea][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][sa][gb][hb][jb][kb][lb][ob][qb][rb][sb][ac][bc][cc][dc][ec][gc][kc][lc][nc][qc][rc][sc][ad][bd][cd][id][ld][rd][sd][ae][fe][he][ke][le][me][qe][se][af][bf][cf][ef][ff][gf][if][lf][of][ag][bg][cg][dg][eg][fg][gg][hg][jg][pg][rg][sg][ah][bh][ch][eh][fh][hh][ih][oh][fi][ji][li][ni][qi][ri][oj][kk][mk][nk][ok][om][sr][os][ps][qs][ss]TB[bm][dm][an][cn][gn][hn][jn][sn][ao][do][fo][go][io][bp][fp][hp][jp][mp][bq][eq][gq][iq][lq][ar][cr][dr][fr][hr][jr][kr][as][bs][es][gs][hs][is][ls]KGSDE[ha][ja][ka][la][gb][jb][lb][qb][sb][bc][cc][dc][kc][lc][qc][rc][ad][ld][rd][fe][ke][le][me][af][bf][cf][ef][ff][gf][ag][cg][dg][eg][fg][gg][hg][bh][ch][fh][hh][ih][nk]C[kestrel [?\]: well done!
Tapani [?\]: Thanks
kestrel [?\]: ready for gnugo?
kestrel [?\]: :-)
Tapani [?\]: It'll be a joke. :-)
trogdor [-\]: :D
kestrel [?\]: good luck
]KGSSW[243.50]KGSSB[125.00])
