(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[9]KM[7.50]TM[780]
PW[CrazyStone]PB[MoGoBot]DT[2006-07-02]EV[Sixteenth KGS Computer Go Tournament - Formal division]RO[2]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[MoGoBot [?\]: GTP Engine for MoGoBot (black): MoGo version 1.0.0
CrazyStone [-\]: GTP Engine for CrazyStone (white): Crazy Stone (Search) version 0005
Yizao [?\]: hoho
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;B[fd]CR[fd]BL[759.302]
;W[ee]CR[ee]WL[779.725]C[Yizao [?\]: mogo has little change to win 
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;B[ed]CR[ed]BL[740.238]C[Yizao [?\]: less than 10%
RemiCoulom [12k\]: Did you parallelize it ?
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;W[de]CR[de]WL[721.435]
;B[fe]CR[fe]BL[720.499]C[Yizao [?\]: no
Yizao [?\]: i run a test at my computer
Yizao [?\]: he won 2 out of 19
Yizao [?\]: and now crazystone is on a cluster
Yizao [?\]: so...
Yizao [?\]: its obvious....
Yizao [?\]: :P
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;W[ff]CR[ff]WL[667.061]
;B[dd]CR[dd]BL[701.968]C[Yizao [?\]: a, a typical MC based program game
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;W[cd]CR[cd]WL[616.753]
;B[gf]CR[gf]BL[682.119]
;W[dc]CR[dc]WL[570.348]C[jhouse [10k\]: Is MoGoBot monte carlo too?
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;B[ef]CR[ef]BL[662.046]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: plenty of cuts for black.
Yizao [?\]: yes, very similiar to CrazyStone
Yizao [?\]: they are plenty, but they are good for CrazyStone i think
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;W[df]CR[df]WL[527.988]C[Yizao [?\]: because when the situation is too complicated, im not sure MoGo will be glad...
Yizao [?\]: oh
Yizao [?\]: this move is not v good
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;B[eg]CR[eg]BL[643.214]C[Yizao [?\]: this move is not MonteCarlo at all.....
Yizao [?\]: i thought he would eat...
RemiCoulom [12k\]: so did I
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;W[dg]CR[dg]WL[488.672]C[jhouse [10k\]: Yizao, how strong are you?
lukeg [20k\]: is mogo montecarlo?
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;B[eh]CR[eh]BL[624.662]C[Yizao [?\]: in fact, i tried before and found that MoGo doesnt know how to respond shisho
Yizao [?\]: about 2k
Yizao [?\]: MoGo is MonteCarlo based
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;W[dh]CR[dh]WL[452.376]C[Yizao [?\]: i mean, 
Yizao [?\]: well, he is MonteCarlo
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;B[ec]CR[ec]BL[605.843]C[Yizao [?\]: if they continue in this way then it will be a CrazyStone's typical 0.5 point game...
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;W[fg]CR[fg]WL[419.09]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: I am a little scared
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;B[fh]CR[fh]BL[586.294]C[Yizao [?\]: rémi, can u see the estimation of CrazyStone?
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;W[gg]CR[gg]WL[399.684]C[Yizao [?\]: MoGo said he is 52% to win
Yizao [?\]: no
RemiCoulom [12k\]: 54%
Yizao [?\]: MoGo doesnt know shoshi...
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;B[gh]CR[gh]BL[567.919]C[jhouse [10k\]: what is shoshi?
RemiCoulom [12k\]: neither do I
Warfreak2 [18k\]: or ladders apparently
Yizao [?\]: at leat not this time
Yizao [?\]: shisho?
RemiCoulom [12k\]: shicho
Yizao [?\]: ladders
Yizao [?\]: yes
Yizao [?\]: oh, thanks
Warfreak2 [18k\]: although the stones will be captured anyway
jhouse [10k\]: neither of my bots running know them either :)
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;W[hg]CR[hg]WL[370.29]C[Yizao [?\]: 45%
RemiCoulom [12k\]: 54%
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;B[hh]CR[hh]BL[548.557]C[Yizao [?\]: sorry but which bot is yours, jhouse?
Yizao [?\]: a!!!!
Yizao [?\]: stupid
Yizao [?\]: oh
Yizao [?\]: not really
jhouse [10k\]: I have two running in this tournament.  housebot and hbotsvn
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;W[hf]CR[hf]WL[342.834]C[Yizao [?\]: en
RemiCoulom [12k\]: 52%
Yizao [?\]: 48%
jhouse [10k\]: housebot is a version before an overhaul of the guts.  both are very weak and non-monte-carlo
Yizao [?\]: hehe
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;B[ge]CR[ge]BL[529.579]C[Yizao [?\]: hehe
Yizao [?\]: all the programs here are weak in a certain sense
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;W[he]CR[he]WL[317.523]C[Yizao [?\]: that doesnt matter
RemiCoulom [12k\]: 52%
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;B[hd]CR[hd]BL[510.803]C[Yizao [?\]: 49%
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;W[ei]CR[ei]WL[294.18]C[Yizao [?\]: its interesting
RemiCoulom [12k\]: 47%
Yizao [?\]: since i didnt use ur backup operator
Yizao [?\]: but the value is consistent
RemiCoulom [12k\]: I don't like it
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;B[ig]CR[ig]BL[492.24]C[Yizao [?\]: 57%
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;W[db]CR[db]WL[272.853]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: 47%
Yizao [?\]: after E1 MoGo is v v happy
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;B[eb]CR[eb]BL[472.534]
;W[ih]CR[ih]WL[253.566]
;B[ie]CR[ie]BL[452.723]C[Yizao [?\]: 58%
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;W[id]CR[id]WL[242.187]
;B[if]CR[if]BL[433.51]C[lukeg [20k\]: strange
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;W[da]CR[da]WL[224.984]C[Yizao [?\]: he has heisitated between j4 and j7
Yizao [?\]: hesitated
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;B[cc]CR[cc]BL[414.317]C[Yizao [?\]: hehe
RemiCoulom [12k\]: My guess is that CrazyStone should win
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;W[bc]CR[bc]WL[216.578]C[Yizao [?\]: stupid thing again
RemiCoulom [12k\]: komi is 7.5
Yizao [?\]: what is his estimation?
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;B[ce]CR[ce]BL[395.836]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: so one white stone more on the middle line is enough to win.
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;W[bd]CR[bd]WL[208.574]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: 53%
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;B[cf]CR[cf]BL[375.938]C[Yizao [?\]: so ur one is better
Yizao [?\]: 51% here
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;W[cg]CR[cg]WL[200.444]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: 56%
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;B[cb]CR[cb]BL[356.899]C[Yizao [?\]: yes
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;W[bb]CR[bb]WL[193.082]C[Yizao [?\]: 48%
RemiCoulom [12k\]: 69%
Yizao [?\]: hehe
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;B[ea]CR[ea]BL[336.927]C[Yizao [?\]: 41%
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;W[ca]CR[ca]WL[186.214]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: phew
RemiCoulom [12k\]: I was right to be scared.
Yizao [?\]: why?
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;B[di]CR[di]BL[318.339]C[Yizao [?\]: CrazyStone is doing well
RemiCoulom [12k\]: that is very close
Yizao [?\]: ah!
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;W[ci]CR[ci]WL[179.397]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: now it is easy to win for Crazy Stone
Yizao [?\]: yes
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;B[bg]CR[bg]BL[299.859]C[Yizao [?\]: yes, the beginning is difficult for the MC programs
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;W[bf]CR[bf]WL[172.901]C[Yizao [?\]: ur time setting is better than mine also, i think
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;B[af]CR[af]BL[281.292]
;W[be]CR[be]WL[166.62]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: I do remaining time / 14
RemiCoulom [12k\]: at each move
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;B[]BL[260.614]
;W[di]CR[di]WL[160.782]C[Yizao [?\]: /14?
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;B[]BL[260.614]C[Yizao [?\]: why?
Warfreak2 [18k\]: pass?
Yizao [?\]: yes
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;W[ae]CR[ae]WL[149.492]
;B[]BL[260.614]C[Yizao [?\]: he thought he is destined to lose
Yizao [?\]: then no need to continue
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;W[aa]CR[aa]WL[139.244]
;B[]BL[260.614]
;W[ha]CR[ha]WL[129.919]
;B[]BL[260.614]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: Crazy Stone now knows how to resign
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;W[ga]CR[ga]WL[120.963]C[RemiCoulom [12k\]: That's the only improvement since Turin
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;B[]BL[260.614]C[Yizao [?\]: he did know?
Yizao [?\]: hehe
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;W[fa]CR[fa]WL[111.233]
;B[]BL[260.614]C[Warfreak2 [18k\]: heh
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;W[ba]CR[ba]WL[107.476]C[Yizao [?\]: but i think he dosnt know to pass when he wins
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;B[]BL[260.614]
;W[ag]CR[ag]WL[103.704]C[Yizao [?\]: at least MoGo doenst
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;B[]BL[260.614]
;W[bh]CR[bh]WL[100.451]
;B[]BL[260.614]C[Yizao [?\]: oh no
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;W[]WL[100.451]TW[ab][cb][ac][cc][ad][ce][af][cf][bg][ah][ch][ai][bi]TB[fa][ga][ha][ia][fb][gb][hb][ib][fc][gc][hc][ic][gd][id][he][ff][hf][fg][gg][hg]C[Yizao [?\]: he knows
Warfreak2 [18k\]: we'll see a b+time yet :P
Warfreak2 [18k\]: haha
Holmes [-\]: :)
CrazyStone [-\]: You and the engine seem to disagree about which stones are dead. To solve this problem, you can press "undo", play until all dead stones are removed from the board, then score again.
Yizao [?\]: what?
MoGoBot [?\]: You and the engine seem to disagree about which stones are dead. Sorry, this cannot be solved. You must either accept the engine's choices or adjourn the game. If you think the engine is incorrect, then please contact its author.
Yizao [?\]: well
Yizao [?\]: just set u win
Yizao [?\]: thats easy
Yizao [?\]: i kill the program, ok?
antminder [?\]: no don't kill it
Yizao [?\]: sorry for that
Yizao [?\]: well
Yizao [?\]: i already did that
MoGoBot [?\]: GTP Engine for MoGoBot (black): MoGo version 1.0.0
antminder [?\]: maproom will take care of it...
Yizao [?\]: ok
Yizao [?\]: i reconnect
MoGoBot [?\]: You and the engine seem to disagree about which stones are dead. Sorry, this cannot be solved. You must either accept the engine's choices or adjourn the game. If you think the engine is incorrect, then please contact its author.
Yizao [?\]: sorry but what should i do with my program in this case?
RemiCoulom [12k\]: just wait for nick
antminder [?\]: just wait
RemiCoulom [12k\]: no need to disconnect
maproomad [-\]: have they both passed?
Yizao [?\]: thanks
maproomad [-\]: I guess so
RemiCoulom [12k\]: yes
Yizao [?\]: yes
maproomad [-\]: still hard to count
RemiCoulom [12k\]: white wins
RemiCoulom [12k\]: komi = 7.5
Yizao [?\]: we are agree about that
RemiCoulom [12k\]: so one stone more on the middle line is enough to win
Yizao [?\]: so does my program
maproomad [-\]: the lower right is a problem
RemiCoulom [12k\]: even if it belongs completely to black
RemiCoulom [12k\]: then white still wins.
Yizao [?\]: in fact my program wanted to resign
RemiCoulom [12k\]: the unconditionaly alive group to the left is enough.
maproomad [-\]: W has 37, B has 45
Yizao [?\]: but i didnt tell him how to do
maproomad [-\]: B wins
maproomad [-\]: do you agree?
Yizao [?\]: ...
Yizao [?\]: 37+45=82
maproomad [-\]: oh
Yizao [?\]: 37+44
Yizao [?\]: W+
RemiCoulom [12k\]: B has 44
maproomad [-\]: B has ony 39
RemiCoulom [12k\]: yes, true
maproomad [-\]: so with komi, W wins
Yizao [?\]: yes
maproomad [-\]: ok, Yizao?
Yizao [?\]: yes
Yizao [?\]: sure
maproomad [-\]: W CrazyStone wins
Yizao [?\]: it was close
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