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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:11.0]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[CrazyStone]
PW[GNU]
DT[2008-07-06]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
TM[2580]
RU[Chinese]
RE[B+1.50]
BR[1k]
C[CrazyStone [1k\]: GTP Engine for CrazyStone (black): Crazy Stone \
version 0010-30
GNU [?\]: GTP Engine for GNU (white): GNU Go version 3.7.12]
CA[UTF-8];B[pd]BL[2579.687];W[dp]WL[2579.621];B[gm]BL[2536.782];W[dd]WL[2579.026];B[ef]BL[2495.175];W[pp]WL[2577.742];B[fd]BL[2454.728];W[pf]WL[2575.526]
;B[nd]BL[2415.352];W[qd]WL[2573.996];B[qc]BL[2375.93];W[qe]WL[2568.107];B[mh]BL[2337.132];W[lc]WL[2563.032];B[nf]BL[2299.501];W[rc]WL[2558.601];B[pi]BL[2256.624];W[ic]WL[2544.946]
;B[je]BL[2220.216];W[qk]WL[2532.49];B[ol]BL[2183.694];W[pm]WL[2525.428];B[om]BL[2147.162];W[pc]WL[2519.591];B[qb]BL[2128.718];W[oc]WL[2499.088];B[nc]BL[2093.129];W[rb]WL[2481.281]
;B[hd]BL[2059.497];W[id]WL[2456.704];B[ie]BL[2042.538];W[po]WL[2452.316];B[pl]BL[2009.124];W[ql]WL[2439.996];B[pn]BL[1973.233];W[mo]WL[2436.054];B[qm]BL[1941.368];W[qo]WL[2431.893]
;B[ln]BL[1909.958];W[mn]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: sometimes it seems... GNU treats all its stones \
lightly xD]
WL[2427.394];B[lm]BL[1879.551];W[kp]WL[2424.232];B[ip]BL[1849.2];W[gq]WL[2421.268];B[gp]BL[1819.436];W[fq]WL[2415.91];B[dn]BL[1789.772];W[cl]WL[2412.152]
;B[ci]BL[1761.391];W[cn]WL[2407.939];B[rn]BL[1732.805];W[dm]WL[2396.64];B[gk]BL[1705.316];W[jo]WL[2391.864];B[oo]BL[1677.982];W[op]WL[2385.739];B[en]
C[gunnar [?\]: GNU still thinks it's ahead. It will probably be \
happy until J17 and D16 die..]
BL[1648.906];W[ri]WL[2378.208]
;B[co]
C[RemiCoulom [5k\]: 59% here. The game is not over.]
BL[1635.558];W[bo]WL[2366.908];B[bn]
C[RemiCoulom [5k\]: well, maybe it is now :-)
gunnar [?\]: B5 was weak.]
BL[1622.081];W[bm]WL[2346.856];B[cm]BL[1604.423];W[cq]WL[2291.611];B[cn]BL[1591.434];W[dk]
C[gunnar [?\]: GNU now realized black is clearly ahead.]
WL[2287.773];B[io]BL[1566.035];W[jn]WL[2280.739]
;B[jl]
C[RemiCoulom [5k\]: 68%]
BL[1539.042];W[bl]WL[2252.309];B[di]BL[1514.673];W[ro]WL[2249.893];B[qq]BL[1490.276];W[pr]WL[2245.177];B[nq]BL[1466.895];W[no]WL[2225.81];B[bp]BL[1443.425];W[hc]WL[2216.957]
;B[pq]BL[1420.012];W[oq]WL[2181.577];B[lo]BL[1391.812];W[lp]WL[2174.145];B[gc]
C[rvf [2k\]: and now, Remi?
RemiCoulom [5k\]: still 68%]
BL[1365.378];W[gb]WL[2139.964];B[nr]BL[1342.391];W[ec]WL[2131.627];B[fb]BL[1317.094];W[fc]WL[2097.096]
;B[gd]BL[1306.257];W[eb]WL[2089.677];B[or]BL[1285.663];W[qr]WL[2070.172];B[rq]BL[1270.983];W[rr]WL[2054.076];B[rs]BL[1244.418];W[sr]WL[2033.91];B[sq]BL[1224.816];W[sp]WL[2014.088]
;B[hb]BL[1214.119];W[fa]WL[2002.435];B[ib]BL[1191.96];W[jc]WL[1997.612];B[kc]BL[1173.486];W[kb]WL[1991.008];B[kd]BL[1153.586];W[jb]WL[1987.131];B[hq]BL[1131.843];W[cf]WL[1979.684]
;B[bj]BL[1114.487];W[jq]WL[1975.979];B[ir]BL[1096.966];W[bq]WL[1970.31];B[gr]BL[1079.611];W[fr]WL[1962.661];B[qh]
C[Olmerek [14k?\]: 1k bot? Pretty amasing]
BL[1058.124];W[rh]WL[1953.44];B[jr]BL[1039.899];W[lr]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: nah we had 1k bot for a long time now.  Where is \
1d bot programmers?  :)]
WL[1936.763]
;B[fp]BL[1023.511];W[mm]WL[1930.114];B[ml]BL[1013.534];W[dg]WL[1925.793];B[eg]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: you'd expect a 1k to give GNU more of a beating \
:(]
BL[998.081];W[im]WL[1922.709];B[qg]BL[981.874];W[rf]
C[ssgross [3k\]: win is a win]
WL[1918.888];B[qj]BL[966.497];W[il]
C[iphicles [1k?\]: Doesn't want to hurt its opponent's feelings
kuikentje [5k\]: ^_^]
WL[1911.146]
;B[jm]BL[947.558];W[in]
C[maproomad [-\]: games are decided by the worst move, not the best; \
and bots are good at being consistent]
WL[1905.994];B[ik]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: in tactical situations, yes]
BL[940.097];W[rj]WL[1899.027];B[rg]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: strategically speaking... consistent? =)]
BL[925.321];W[sg]
C[ssgross [3k\]: yeah always play crazy
ssgross [3k\]: very consistent]
WL[1894.167];B[eq]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: hehe :p]
BL[910.905];W[er]WL[1886.191];B[dr]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: wrap under tesuji]
BL[902.482];W[gs]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: oops
iphicles [1k?\]: Crazystone seems better at keeping it's central \
territory than mogo]
WL[1870.001]
;B[ep]BL[887.846];W[dq]WL[1860.029];B[hs]BL[872.157];W[hr]WL[1844.076];B[cr]
C[Joa [3k\]: a question: is there a bot which is stronger than its \
creator?
maproomad [-\]: Aya played an excellent central moyo game in round \
2
mandelbrot [2k\]: sure
mandelbrot [2k\]: crazystone for example :)]
BL[854.926];W[is]
C[Joa [3k\]: strange
ssgross [3k\]: mogo by far]
WL[1801.03];B[jp]BL[841.533];W[br]
C[mandelbrot [2k\]: probably leela]
WL[1794.752];B[ko]
C[maproomad [-\]: that has only been true in the last three years, \
since the UCT paper was published]
BL[834.61];W[kq]WL[1782.633]
;B[iq]
C[Joa [3k\]: uct paper?
RemiCoulom [5k\]: Yizao Wang, who started MoGo, was 1d.]
BL[828.178];W[mr]
C[RemiCoulom [5k\]: But Sylvain, who continued, was very weak.]
WL[1766.441];B[ll]BL[815.754];W[pk]WL[1761.39];B[ok]BL[808.412];W[qi]WL[1757.017];B[pj]BL[795.966];W[ph]WL[1752.885];B[oh]BL[782.65];W[pg]WL[1749.281]
;B[ld]BL[769.725];W[rl]WL[1746.536];B[lb]BL[758.249];W[nb]
C[maproomad [-\]: seminal UCT paper seems to be off the nety at \
present:  Bandit based Monte-Carlo Planning", by Levente Kocsis \
and Csaba Szepesvári, 2006.]
WL[1743.361];B[dh]BL[746.845];W[oi]WL[1740.645];B[oj]BL[740.893];W[od]WL[1738.497];B[df]BL[729.423];W[cg]WL[1734.846]
;B[ce]BL[723.003];W[be]WL[1732.695];B[cd]BL[717.019];W[bd]WL[1727.323];B[de]
C[maproomad [-\]: it got computer Go moving forward fast, after \
a long period of near-stagnation]
BL[710.576];W[cc]WL[1724.228];B[kr]BL[698.306];W[mp]WL[1720.579];B[bh]BL[692.135];W[ed]
C[Joa [3k\]: why are there no bots spectating?]
WL[1717.185]
;B[gf]BL[675.84];W[bg]WL[1715.437];B[ag]BL[668.315];W[af]
C[shy [-\]: fuseki is probably the thing bots are worst at yet, \
right?]
WL[1714.033];B[ah]BL[662.592];W[mb]WL[1711.937];B[mc]BL[657.086];W[og]
C[maproomad [-\]: I don't kn ow of a kibitzbot, maybe someone should \
write one]
WL[1710.527];B[nh]BL[652.054];W[la]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: definitely, shy
Joa [3k\]: :)]
WL[1709.054]
;B[on]BL[642.685];W[oe]WL[1707.471];B[ne]BL[637.742];W[qn]
C[mandelbrot [2k\]: are they really weak at fuseki?
shy [-\]: mapr: i'm doing that]
WL[1706.444];B[rm]BL[632.81];W[sl]WL[1705.357];B[ao]BL[623.318];W[ng]WL[1703.851];B[mg]BL[618.435];W[ee]WL[1702.946]
;B[fe]BL[613.539];W[do]WL[1701.715];B[eo]BL[608.598];W[nm]WL[1699.939];B[sm]BL[598.645];W[nl]WL[1698.875];B[nk]BL[593.883];W[aq]WL[1697.534];B[lc]BL[585.518];W[ls]
C[jw24 [8k\]: those MC bots should print their winning probability \
for the kibitzes to see.]
WL[1696.657]
;B[cp]BL[577.151];W[ds]WL[1695.909];B[ho]BL[568.815];W[ia]WL[1694.882];B[ka]BL[560.37];W[ma]WL[1693.696];B[ks]BL[549.988];W[so]WL[1693.032];B[pm]BL[545.582];W[ha]WL[1692.452]
;B[ch]BL[537.232];W[bf]WL[1691.85];B[mq]BL[529.834];W[lq]WL[1690.616];B[nn]BL[522.382];W[np]WL[1689.547];B[ps]BL[514.542];W[ns]WL[1688.222];B[qs]BL[506.666];W[os]
C[Olmerek [14k?\]: is GNU using MC ?]
WL[1687.282]
;B[gi]BL[498.858];W[hs]WL[1686.792];B[ap]BL[491.467];W[of]WL[1686.268];B[mj]BL[483.368];W[jd]WL[1685.824];B[ig]BL[475.961];W[sn]WL[1685.392];B[em]BL[469.545];W[js]WL[1684.726]
;B[fh]BL[463.17];W[nr]WL[1684.222];B[kj]BL[456.777];W[es]WL[1683.699];B[kf]BL[450.396];W[cs]WL[1683.183];B[dj]BL[443.983];W[bs]WL[1682.313];B[am]BL[437.646];W[ad]
C[Joa [3k\]: this is strange]
WL[1680.979]
;B[bc]BL[431.266];W[bb]WL[1680.32];B[cb]BL[424.816];W[ac]WL[1679.012];B[ba]BL[418.372];W[sa]WL[1678.486];B[dl]BL[412.964];W[qf]WL[1676.52];B[ek]BL[407.57];W[rg]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: chinese rules, so they're not wasting points]
WL[1675.541]
;B[ck]BL[402.195];W[ob]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: many bot games end like this =/
Joa [3k\]: ah, i see]
WL[1674.959];B[al]BL[396.827];W[ea]WL[1674.594];B[ff]BL[391.41];W[rk]WL[1674.24];B[ni]BL[386.059];W[dc]WL[1673.909];B[pb]BL[380.684];W[ab]WL[1673.572]
;B[hn]BL[375.216];W[rd]WL[1673.248];B[ak]BL[369.814];W[tt]WL[1673.248];B[bk]BL[364.465];W[tt]WL[1673.248];B[hl]BL[359.078];W[tt]WL[1673.248];B[hm]BL[354.725];W[tt]
C[Joa [3k\]: lol]
WL[1673.247]
;B[kn]
C[Woozle [2k\]: looks like very old chinese rules :)]
BL[350.343];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[hh]BL[345.95];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[jh]BL[341.516];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[ii]BL[337.108];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[kg]BL[332.642];W[tt]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: lol]
WL[1673.246]
;B[ki]BL[328.268];W[tt]
C[kuikentje [5k\]: crazystone just wants to be sure]
WL[1673.246];B[mf]BL[323.868];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[he]
C[Joa [3k\]: hehe]
BL[319.471];W[tt]
C[phalanx [2k\]: crazystone is afraid to die]
WL[1673.246];B[jf]BL[315.066];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[hj]BL[310.652];W[tt]WL[1673.246]
;B[fj]BL[306.297];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[bl]BL[301.97];W[tt]
C[shy [-\]: i want to smack that bot T_T]
WL[1673.246];B[cj]BL[297.63];W[tt]
C[iphicles [1k?\]: You mean it knows it will be turned off when \
game is over?]
WL[1673.246];B[fl]BL[294.259];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[kk]
C[Joa [3k\]: heheh]
BL[290.917];W[tt]
C[phalanx [2k\]: lol]
WL[1673.246]
;B[lk]
C[Joa [3k\]: like HAL]
BL[287.505];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[li]BL[284.135];W[tt]WL[1673.246];B[tt]
C[GoJohnGo [9k\]: crazystone has heard that a ponnuki in the centre \
is worth 30 points
Joa [3k\]: wow
Joa [3k\]: nice result
phalanx [2k\]: seems they are pretty close in strength hehe
shy [-\]: nah
shy [-\]: crazy could have won by more
Joa [3k\]: if they play again, will it be exactly this game???
mandelbrot [2k\]: with 4 handi result would be the same
phalanx [2k\]: of course... if they use the same seed
Joa [3k\]: interesting]
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BL[284.135])
