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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go version 12.001]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[Orego]
PW[housebot]
DT[2009-07-19]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
TM[1140]
RU[Chinese]
RE[B+81.50]
OT[25/20 Canadian]
C[housebot [-\]: GTP Engine for housebot (white): HouseBot version \
HouseBot r884 using LibEGO rbb66b7e5818835b806fbef7217e3beb762f4729f \
Target User: Computers (CGOS) Search Algorithm: uct Search Threads: \
2 Default time settings: N/A Game End Protocol: Play until only \
eye-filling moves remain running on: Vendor string: GenuineIntel \
Processor string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5450 @ 1.66GHz \
Signature: Family=6 Model=15 Stepping=13 Features: MMX FXSR SSE \
SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 AMD64 HTT Multithreading: 2 threads / 2 cores
Orego [-\]: GTP Engine for Orego (black): Orego version 6.05 orego.uct.RavePlayer]
CA[UTF-8];B[pp]BL[1139.762];W[qb]
C[ibd [9k?\]: this could be interesting
ibd [9k?\]: how strong is hb07?]
WL[1128.354];B[kp]BL[1133.122];W[ib]WL[1116.252];B[pk]BL[1126.454];W[mc]
C[jhouse [2k\]: hb07 should be comparable to orego.  I expect housebot \
0.8 to be significantly weaker due to a lack of RAVE]
WL[1104.675];B[fp]BL[1119.855];W[gp]WL[1093.224]
;B[ce]BL[1113.207];W[gb]
C[jhouse [2k\]: It looks like Orego has some kind of heuristics \
to make its play better :)]
WL[1081.863];B[go]
C[ibd [9k?\]: do you know how many kyu the version with rave has?]
BL[1106.594];W[dg]WL[1070.619];B[ef]
C[ibd [9k?\]: from what I've read it's light playouts+rave
ibd [9k?\]: which is the same as my old bot]
BL[1099.926];W[nk]WL[1058.885];B[dk]BL[1093.282];W[gc]WL[1047.304];B[nm]BL[1086.665];W[bn]WL[1036.346]
;B[qj]
C[jhouse [2k\]: I merely commented on the 4 space jumps on the 4th \
line that orego started with.  it looks too natural for an MC \
bot.]
BL[1080.075];W[eg]
C[jhouse [2k\]: Orego now looks more typical of an mc bot]
WL[1025.179];B[fg]BL[1073.472];W[eh]WL[1014.351];B[gi]BL[1066.84];W[fc]WL[1003.597];B[co]BL[1060.247];W[nh]WL[992.33];B[qg]BL[1053.644];W[kr]WL[981.194]
;B[cj]BL[1047.041];W[ch]WL[970.077];B[lj]BL[1040.332];W[jj]WL[959.582];B[kk]BL[1033.714];W[bh]WL[948.64];B[ii]BL[1027.163];W[fk]WL[937.585];B[gl]BL[1020.53];W[gm]WL[926.802]
;B[fm]BL[1013.887];W[qr]WL[915.508];B[ei]BL[1007.3];W[ll]WL[904.918];B[mq]BL[1000.719];W[fd]WL[895.019];B[kl]BL[994.099];W[mn]WL[884.367];B[nf]BL[987.465];W[dr]WL[874.655]
;B[lf]BL[980.84];W[en]
C[jhouse [2k\]: HouseBot says 61% chance to win.  I think it's deluding \
itself]
WL[865.017];B[cq]BL[974.291];W[qo]WL[854.73];B[hp]BL[967.612];W[es]WL[844.602];B[on]BL[961.018];W[jk]WL[834.465];B[dm]BL[954.463];W[rl]WL[825.115]
;B[mh]BL[947.901];W[df]WL[815.134];B[ee]BL[941.277];W[rg]WL[805.241];B[nj]BL[934.712];W[cm]WL[795.531];B[po]BL[928.081];W[ff]WL[785.866];B[fe]BL[921.528];W[mj]WL[776.944]
;B[qn]BL[914.976];W[gn]WL[767.44];B[fn]BL[908.366];W[aj]WL[758.685];B[jl]BL[901.791];W[pf]WL[749.931];B[oh]BL[895.243];W[is]WL[740.598];B[rn]BL[888.638];W[hh]WL[731.372]
;B[hf]BL[882.076];W[lc]WL[722.228];B[bl]BL[875.546];W[im]
C[jhouse [2k\]: Not too bad considering that this rewrite only played \
its first 19x19 game about 4 hours ago :)]
WL[713.15];B[ml]BL[869.042];W[lg]WL[704.831];B[fl]BL[862.463];W[qm]WL[695.887];B[jg]BL[855.667];W[hg]WL[687.689]
;B[qe]BL[849.145];W[lo]WL[679.597];B[jn]BL[842.635];W[ma]WL[671.569];B[mk]BL[835.927];W[ne]WL[663.584];B[ie]BL[829.391];W[eo]WL[654.884];B[qf]BL[822.849];W[bo]WL[646.299]
;B[gq]BL[816.35];W[fo]WL[638.39];B[dn]BL[809.72];W[op]WL[630.037];B[nq]BL[803.216];W[al]WL[621.692];B[dq]BL[796.687];W[ig]WL[614.164];B[jf]BL[790.086];W[hl]WL[606.674]
;B[hk]BL[783.589];W[fi]WL[598.598];B[fj]BL[777.061];W[fh]WL[591.246];B[nn]BL[770.501];W[sg]
C[tmc [-\]: What does it think now?]
WL[583.968];B[cr]BL[764.038];W[pd]WL[576.77];B[gg]
C[jhouse [2k\]: Estimate for Q16 = 0.320388
jhouse [2k\]: That's 32%]
BL[757.479];W[cc]WL[569.667]
;B[bm]BL[750.99];W[kd]WL[562.598];B[jh]
C[jhouse [2k\]: That seems to be lower than other recent estimates \
of about 34-35%]
BL[744.493];W[mg]WL[554.991];B[mf]BL[737.97];W[kc]WL[548.037];B[pr]BL[731.466];W[rj]WL[540.472];B[dc]
C[jhouse [2k\]: hmmm... It dropped a lot.  Now it's more like 27%]
BL[724.965];W[ab]WL[533.693]
;B[pe]BL[718.442];W[lr]WL[526.3];B[ji]BL[711.985];W[rb]WL[518.947];B[rk]BL[705.472];W[ng]WL[512.339];B[ri]
C[jhouse [2k\]: The one win, one loss initialization heuristic can \
cause some crazy estimates.  I've seen it do stuff like 7E-5 \
as the estimated chance of winning :)]
BL[699.022];W[ql]WL[505.152];B[gh]BL[692.571];W[cn]
C[jhouse [2k\]: I need to implement resign logic]
WL[498.683]
;B[em]BL[686.1];W[dp]WL[492.284];B[hr]BL[679.501];W[qh]WL[485.798];B[hj]BL[673.006];W[ra]WL[479.519];B[oj]
C[tmc [-\]: The best way is to try an illegal move.  You might crash \
something ;)]
BL[666.546];W[pq]
C[jhouse [2k\]: :)]
WL[473.271];B[oe]BL[660.06];W[hb]WL[467.087]
;B[rh]
C[jhouse [2k\]: 18%]
BL[653.614];W[si]WL[460.99];B[qq]BL[647.119];W[bb]WL[454.954];B[ds]BL[640.661];W[kn]
C[jhouse [2k\]: It is nice to have the simple feedback from mc engines]
WL[448.969];B[os]BL[634.124];W[rm]WL[443.013];B[sn]BL[627.666];W[fb]WL[437.143]
;B[ep]BL[621.21];W[rc]WL[430.611];B[ko]BL[614.756];W[jc]WL[424.865];B[of]BL[608.252];W[cg]WL[419.134];B[oq]BL[601.633];W[cl]WL[413.498];B[ag]BL[595.287];W[lb]WL[407.93]
;B[hm]BL[588.873];W[pa]WL[401.638];B[mp]BL[582.49];W[kb]WL[396.189];B[db]BL[576.102];W[ap]WL[390.779];B[sc]BL[569.713];W[de]WL[385.435];B[oo]BL[563.378];W[ho]WL[380.105]
;B[bk]BL[556.971];W[ip]WL[374.857];B[gp]BL[549.837];W[qi]WL[369.518];B[jp]BL[543.466];W[fr]WL[362.947];B[ki]BL[537.136];W[ia]WL[357.87];B[er]BL[530.803];W[he]WL[352.826]
;B[dd]BL[524.492];W[oi]WL[347.844];B[sj]BL[518.096];W[lm]WL[342.865];B[qp]BL[511.864];W[gk]WL[337.267];B[ej]BL[505.513];W[hn]WL[332.482];B[ni]BL[499.285];W[ed]WL[327.718]
;B[do]BL[493.04];W[lp]WL[323.026];B[io]BL[486.966];W[sh]WL[318.374];B[iq]BL[480.857];W[me]WL[313.68];B[ck]BL[474.774];W[ok]WL[309.136];B[am]BL[468.722];W[na]WL[304.508]
;B[pm]BL[462.619];W[ar]WL[300.051];B[ic]BL[456.542];W[jq]WL[294.972];B[nr]BL[450.448];W[kj]WL[290.655];B[pi]BL[444.356];W[gj]WL[284.938];B[bs]BL[438.323];W[ro]WL[280.711]
;B[ek]BL[432.3];W[ha]WL[275.857];B[rr]BL[426.37];W[rd]WL[270.987];B[mr]BL[420.446];W[lk]WL[266.968];B[jm]BL[414.537];W[mi]WL[262.973];B[jr]BL[408.635];W[og]WL[258.281]
;B[if]BL[402.753];W[eo]WL[254.34];B[rj]BL[396.809];W[ja]WL[250.47];B[lq]BL[390.932];W[fa]WL[246.656];B[hc]BL[385.051];W[hi]WL[242.127];B[ge]BL[379.152];W[cp]WL[238.415]
;B[gj]BL[373.244];W[cf]WL[234.737];B[ak]BL[367.388];W[nl]WL[230.378];B[pl]
C[mundungus [8k\]: I'm just stopping in between errands. Was there \
a question about Orego?]
BL[361.577];W[np]WL[226.03];B[ka]BL[355.785];W[oa]WL[222.507];B[bd]BL[349.994];W[bq]WL[219.008]
;B[rp]BL[344.229];W[dl]WL[215.556];B[ir]BL[338.367];W[ci]WL[211.419];B[br]BL[332.601];W[se]WL[207.339];B[fo]BL[326.852];W[ph]WL[204.062];B[ih]BL[321.082];W[qk]WL[200.812]
;B[re]BL[315.489];W[eb]WL[197.633];B[ld]BL[309.91];W[di]WL[194.469];B[hd]BL[304.36];W[ea]WL[191.336];B[sf]BL[298.706];W[om]WL[188.225];B[nb]BL[293.159];W[jd]WL[185.138]
;B[sp]BL[287.578];W[ca]WL[182.11];B[pg]
C[jhouse [2k\]: Just basic "what's under the hood" question
jhouse [2k\]: Is it pure UCT+RAVE and light playouts?
jhouse [2k\]: Or is there anything else that's made its way into \
the bot?
mundungus [8k\]: RAVE, Mogo's patterns, a capture-multiple-stones-if-possible \
heuristic in the playouts
mundungus [8k\]: Sorry gotta go.
mundungus [8k\]: (Although I'm still logged in.)
housebot [-\]: GTP Engine for housebot (white): HouseBot version \
HouseBot r884 using LibEGO rbb66b7e5818835b806fbef7217e3beb762f4729f \
Target User: Computers (CGOS) Search Algorithm: uct Search Threads: \
2 Default time settings: N/A Game End Protocol: Play until only \
eye-filling moves remain running on: Vendor string: GenuineIntel \
Processor string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5450 @ 1.66GHz \
Signature: Family=6 Model=15 Stepping=13 Features: MMX FXSR SSE \
SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 AMD64 HTT Multithreading: 2 threads / 2 cores
jhouse [2k\]: HouseBot crashed for some reason]
BL[282.02];W[aa]WL[18.701];B[hh]BL[276.695];W[qh]WL[18.175];B[sl]BL[271.379];W[ph]WL[17.616];B[gr]BL[266.076];W[kq]WL[17.074]
;B[bj]BL[260.754];W[km]WL[16.54];B[bi]BL[255.431];W[ah]WL[16.014];B[ss]BL[250.094];W[dj]WL[15.468];B[ls]BL[244.786];W[qs]WL[14.943];B[ig]BL[239.449];W[kf]WL[14.406]
;B[qd]BL[234.2];W[bf]WL[13.87];B[il]BL[228.924];W[da]WL[13.322];B[rs]BL[223.632];W[bp]WL[12.741];B[mo]BL[218.401];W[aq]WL[12.207];B[gf]BL[213.141];W[mm]WL[11.635]
;B[sm]BL[207.999];W[ai]WL[11.069];B[pb]BL[203.213];W[kg]WL[10.535];B[an]BL[198.362];W[qk]WL[9.904];B[rf]BL[193.593];W[rm]WL[9.309];B[as]BL[188.999];W[si]WL[8.755]
;B[li]BL[184.345];W[sg]WL[8.196];B[ql]BL[179.768];W[ke]WL[7.614];B[en]BL[175.348];W[oi]WL[7.037];B[bc]BL[170.916];W[ol]WL[6.455];B[js]BL[166.554];W[sa]WL[5.866]
;B[qi]BL[162.259];W[la]WL[5.207];B[ns]BL[157.912];W[sh]WL[4.61];B[ms]BL[153.591];W[hs]WL[3.955];B[ks]BL[149.282];W[sd]WL[3.289];B[ln]BL[145.148];W[lr]
C[ibd [9k?\]: m12!]
WL[2.664]
;B[nd]BL[141.159];W[sb]WL[2.028];B[ml]BL[137.177];W[lp]
C[ibd [9k?\]: ah nvm]
WL[1.402];B[pj]BL[133.315];W[kr]WL[0.761];B[fk]BL[129.452];W[af]WL[0.064];B[gs]BL[125.491];W[od]WL[19.391]OW[24]
;B[ec]BL[121.744];W[is]WL[18.695]OW[23];B[kh]BL[118.009];W[md]WL[18.053]OW[22];B[le]BL[114.264];W[fs]WL[17.351]OW[21];B[cb]BL[110.549];W[ba]WL[16.657]OW[20];B[lo]BL[106.875];W[gd]WL[16.014]OW[19]
;B[je]BL[103.186];W[id]WL[15.314]OW[18];B[so]BL[99.409];W[he]WL[14.533]OW[17];B[mb]BL[95.876];W[qo]WL[13.849]OW[16];B[sq]BL[92.584];W[ic]WL[13.205]OW[15];B[kq]BL[89.278];W[oh]WL[12.493]OW[14]
;B[lh]BL[86.085];W[eq]WL[11.793]OW[13];B[rg]BL[82.886];W[dr]WL[11.049]OW[12];B[mk]BL[79.796];W[cs]
C[ibd [9k?\]: huge]
WL[10.322]OW[11];B[mm]BL[77.232];W[om]WL[9.581]OW[10];B[ij]BL[74.896];W[cq]WL[8.899]OW[9]
;B[pc]BL[72.655];W[as]WL[8.209]OW[8];B[ro]BL[70.407];W[cr]WL[7.421]OW[7];B[hc]BL[68.211];W[br]WL[6.675]OW[6];B[ok]BL[66.057];W[nl]WL[5.889]OW[5];B[lr]BL[63.859];W[nk]WL[5.396]OW[4]
;B[no]BL[61.712];W[kn]WL[4.45]OW[3];B[in]BL[59.668];W[op]WL[3.551]OW[2];B[np]BL[57.597];W[si]WL[3.025]OW[1];B[cd]BL[55.527];W[ad]WL[20]OW[25];B[qc]BL[53.524];W[ae]WL[19.313]OW[24]
;B[mi]BL[51.535];W[km]WL[18.647]OW[23];B[ik]BL[49.563];W[sh]WL[17.985]OW[22];B[sg]BL[47.623];W[kj]WL[17.346]OW[21];B[lm]BL[45.788];W[si]WL[16.649]OW[20];B[el]BL[44.023];W[kn]WL[16.002]OW[19]
;B[oc]BL[42.27];W[jk]WL[15.252]OW[18];B[lk]BL[40.524];W[pd]WL[14.547]OW[17];B[od]BL[38.845];W[qa]WL[13.888]OW[16];B[be]BL[37.227];W[fq]WL[13.227]OW[15];B[jj]BL[35.629];W[nc]WL[12.518]OW[14]
;B[hm]BL[34.087];W[bg]WL[11.768]OW[13];B[ol]BL[32.678];W[ob]WL[11.079]OW[12];B[sh]BL[31.226];W[qm]WL[10.314]OW[11];B[hn]BL[29.873];W[hd]WL[9.591]OW[10];B[km]BL[28.625];W[nk]WL[8.923]OW[9]
;B[mb]BL[27.442];W[ac]WL[8.262]OW[8];B[nl]BL[26.281];W[cc]WL[7.478]OW[7];B[rl]BL[25.107];W[db]WL[6.617]OW[6];B[ao]BL[24.068];W[qm]WL[5.882]OW[5];B[ps]BL[23.085];W[cd]WL[5.405]OW[4]
;B[gm]BL[22.146];W[qr]WL[4.366]OW[3];B[be]BL[21.268];W[bd]WL[3.326]OW[2];B[hs]BL[20.394];W[ce]WL[2.856]OW[1];B[dd]BL[19.528];W[nb]WL[20]OW[25];B[ec]BL[18.663];W[dc]WL[19.278]OW[24]
;B[rm]BL[17.836];W[tt]WL[19.278]OW[23];B[qs]BL[17.082];W[tt]WL[19.277]OW[22];B[tt]TB[is][sr][qr][or][kr][rq][pq][jq][hq][op][lp][ip][qo][jo][ho][eo][pn][mn][kn][gn][qm][om][im][ll][hl][al][sk][qk][nk][jk][gk][mj][kj][si][hi][hg][pf][ff][pd]
TW[ds][bs][er][dq][dh][ag][be][dd][sc][hc][ec][bc][mb][jb][cb][ka][ga]
BL[17.082])
