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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go version 12.001]
SZ[9]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[FuegoAl]
PW[MoGoBot1]
DT[2009-09-20]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
TM[270]
RU[Chinese]
RE[W+14.50]
OT[25/20 Canadian]
C[MoGoBot1 [?\]: GTP Engine for MoGoBot1 (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: \
I'll resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If \
you passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)
FuegoAl [-\]: GTP Engine for FuegoAl (black): Fuego version 0.4.SVN]
CA[UTF-8];B[ee]BL[269.718];W[eg]WL[269.761];B[cf]BL[269.408];W[fc]WL[269.551];B[ge]BL[259.07];W[dc]WL[269.358];B[gc]BL[243.79];W[gg]WL[269.131]
;B[dg]BL[230.295];W[fd]WL[268.9];B[fe]BL[220.739];W[cd]WL[268.65];B[gd]BL[206.851];W[dh]WL[268.396];B[ch]BL[199.253];W[eh]WL[267.898];B[cb]BL[188.148];W[bc]WL[246.842]
;B[be]BL[184.171];W[df]WL[227.898];B[cg]BL[176.934];W[de]WL[210.092];B[ef]BL[175.275];W[eb]WL[193.904];B[ed]BL[168.283];W[bb]WL[179.13];B[ec]BL[161.593];W[db]WL[165.296]
;B[fg]BL[160.124];W[fh]WL[152.473];B[hg]BL[158.483];W[hh]WL[140.907];B[gf]BL[156.929];W[gh]WL[130.255];B[hf]BL[155.18];W[ci]WL[120.292];B[bi]BL[147.445];W[di]WL[111.492]
;B[ce]BL[145.695];W[dd]WL[103.509];B[bh]BL[137.63];W[fb]WL[96.201];B[ih]
C[family645: two bots playing each other? =)]
BL[130.948];W[ig]WL[89.44];B[fi]BL[122.269];W[hb]WL[83.263];B[if]
C[goIngo [-\]: but not any bots]
BL[118.977];W[hi]WL[77.79]
;B[gb]BL[117.35];W[ga]WL[72.863];B[hc]BL[114.845];W[ha]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: certain b win]
WL[68.148];B[ib]
C[juj: feels like MoGo neglects to make life at the bottom?]
BL[111.775];W[fa]
C[family645: sofisticated ones! lol!!]
WL[63.942];B[ic]BL[94.4];W[ea]
C[juj: family645: what's your ranking?
gogonuts [4d\]: he saw that capturing at the top would win for \
b
family645: dont have one but 17 something]
WL[59.709];B[ab]BL[63.725];W[ia]
C[juj: try out one of these sophisticated bots and you'll see ;)
ibd [7k\]: 17 something? maybe 17 dan
family645: haha]
WL[56.251]
;B[ba]BL[44.045];W[cc]
C[family645: lol
goIngo [-\]: time problem again?]
WL[52.853];B[ca]
C[quicksandB [3k\]: the bigger eye should win]
BL[3.308];W[ac]WL[49.478];B[bd]BL[1.641];W[aa]WL[46.727];B[ei]
C[goIngo [-\]: fuego bugs]
BL[0.202];W[gi]WL[44.262];B[ab]BL[19.866]OB[24];W[ae]WL[41.572]
;B[ad]BL[18.677]OB[23];W[aa]WL[39.12];B[fi]BL[17.6]OB[22];W[da]WL[35.316];B[ff]BL[16.424]OB[21];W[ca]WL[31.704];B[tt]BL[16.423]OB[20];W[af]WL[28.458];B[tt]BL[16.423]OB[19];W[bf]WL[25.582]
;B[tt]BL[16.423]OB[18];W[ah]WL[22.93];B[ag]
C[juj: ouch]
BL[15.195]OB[17];W[bg]WL[20.548];B[ag]BL[13.997]OB[16];W[ae]WL[18.158];B[tt]BL[13.997]OB[15];W[bf]WL[17.333];B[tt]BL[13.997]OB[14];W[bg]WL[16.709]
;B[af]BL[12.716]OB[13];W[hd]
C[goIngo [-\]: snapback party]
WL[15.73];B[tt]BL[12.715]OB[12];W[ei]WL[14.768];B[tt]BL[12.715]OB[11];W[id]WL[14.061];B[tt]BL[12.714]OB[10];W[ba]WL[13.34];B[tt]BL[12.714]OB[9]
(;W[tt]
C[ajahuang [6d\]: ?
ajahuang [6d\]: no
ibd [7k\]: oO
gogonuts [4d\]: wrong
nodan [1d\]: no
gogonuts [4d\]: b wins
chobaka83 [1d?\]: xD
telchar [2d?\]: lol
ajahuang [6d\]: there is no seki
quicksandB [3k\]: black cleanup mistake
juj: heh, MoGo has a big authority :)
Aloriless [5k?\]: yes
ajahuang [6d\]: no seki there, black wins the semeai
goIngo [-\]: what does tournament directoer say?
juj: I guess it planned for this from the very beginning
ibd [7k\]: haha
quicksandB [3k\]: well, scoring is part of the game :)
family645: hey its chinese counting
Aloriless [5k?\]: fuego should support cleanup
alter [1k\]: is it mandatory for the tournament ?
gogonuts [4d\]: this will surely be awarded to fuego
quicksandB [3k\]: b can still go wrong, if he plays in his eye \
it's seki
goIngo [-\]: it should so
juj: it's clear that black wins here, but is is a win if the \
black player can't see the moves to win?
Aloriless [5k?\]: or remove opponent dead by playing
Aloriless [5k?\]: should have set rules to cgos ...
juj: s/is is/ is it
goIngo [-\]: however, preliminary result leads to other pairings
Aloriless [5k?\]: lost 2 games by using rules kgs
ajahuang [6d\]: Mogo agree to the scoring
ajahuang [6d\]: so I think no execuse for mogo
goIngo [-\]: Mogo agreed?
teytaud [14k?\]: For information: I have sent an email to Nick \
for pointing out that we agree (the mogotw team) for considering \
the "human" count and not the KGS count :-)
ajahuang [6d\]: oh
goIngo [-\]: good sportsman, Olivier!
teytaud [14k?\]: A long time ago, mogo lost a KGS tournament whereas \
it had won all its games :-)
goIngo [-\]: what happened there?]
TB[ig][bg][bf][ae]
TW[fi][cb][ab]
WL[13.34])
(;W[tt]
C[MoGoBot1 [?\]: Disagreement over tournament scoring. Switching \
to cleanup mode.]
TB[ai][ah][ig][bg][bf][ie][he][ae][id][hd]
TW[fi][cb][ab]
WL[13.34]))
