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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go version 12.001]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[pachi]
PW[Fuego]
DT[2009-11-08]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
TM[840]
RU[Chinese]
RE[W+Resign]
BR[4k]
WR[3k]
OT[25/30 Canadian]
C[Fuego [3k\]: GTP Engine for Fuego (white): FuegoEx version 6.6.SVN
pachi [4k\]: GTP Engine for pachi (black): Pachi UCT Engine version \
4.99 (Dosaku-devel): I'm playing UCT. When I'm losing, I will \
resign, if I think I win, I play until you pass. Anyone can send \
me 'winrate' in private chat to get my assessment of the position.]
CA[UTF-8];B[lc]BL[831.404];W[cm]WL[828.442];B[qk]
C[pasky [2d\]: mmueller: how can the randomized rave support ever \
work? it will call GetValueEstimate(), but that will again just \
compute RAVE value if m_rave is set]
BL[822.499];W[lq]
C[CGBSpender [-\]: All'arrembaggio !]
WL[817.491];B[hc]BL[813.666];W[gj]
C[mmueller [-\]: it switches m_rave off temporarily]
WL[808.761];B[ip]BL[804.79];W[qd]WL[799.314]
;B[dg]
C[pasky [2d\]: mmueller: i can't see that in the code]
BL[795.917];W[ce]WL[790.457];B[qp]
C[mmueller [-\]: it should, anyway :)
pasky [2d\]: mmueller: it will set useRave to false instead, but \
never touch m_rave]
BL[786.878];W[nq]
C[pasky [2d\]: but GetValueEstimate() looks directly at m_rave]
WL[778.917];B[dp]BL[777.756];W[fq]WL[769.01];B[qg]BL[768.641];W[gg]
C[mmueller [-\]: hmm. Is it calling GetValueEstimate or is there \
a direct call to some special function?]
WL[757.753];B[dj]
C[pasky [2d\]: it is calling GetValueEstimate()]
BL[759.483];W[lk]
C[pasky [2d\]:     if (useRave)         value = GetValueEstimateRave(child); \
else         value = GetValueEstimate(child);]
WL[750.842]
;B[kk]
C[mmueller [-\]: Then maybe it is broken?]
BL[750.218];W[kj]
C[pasky [2d\]: yes, i think it is :)]
WL[739.688];B[jk]
C[mmueller [-\]: OK thanks :)]
BL[741.046];W[ji]WL[729.456];B[ll]BL[731.738];W[mk]WL[724.906];B[ml]BL[723.083];W[nk]WL[717.697];B[nl]BL[714.279];W[ck]WL[708.144]
;B[cj]BL[705.175];W[hm]WL[698.66];B[dk]BL[696.221];W[ol]WL[691.482];B[om]BL[687.295];W[pl]WL[686.378];B[ok]BL[678.38];W[pk]WL[681.397];B[oj]BL[670.297];W[pj]WL[679.206]
;B[lj]BL[663.726];W[mj]WL[673.928];B[oi]BL[656.187];W[lh]WL[664.917];B[li]BL[647.291];W[mi]WL[659.552];B[qj]
C[pasky [2d\]: mmueller: btw thisversion seems much stronger than \
0.4, do you think it's the balancer making so much difference?]
BL[639.657];W[dl]
C[mmueller [-\]: m11 makes m12 look good :)]
WL[650.163];B[bk]BL[630.989];W[qn]
C[mmueller [-\]: no, main change was a bug fix]
WL[640.513]
;B[pm]BL[622.292];W[ql]
C[mmueller [-\]: This was all done before the match agaist Mr Chou
pasky [2d\]: oh, interesting]
WL[634.786];B[qm]BL[614.589];W[pi]WL[632.735];B[rl]
C[pasky [2d\]: i want to make some major bugfix that will make pachi \
play so much better too :(]
BL[606.581];W[ph]
C[mmueller [-\]: balancer was only slightly positive]
WL[626.427];B[oh]BL[599.577];W[pg]
C[mmueller [-\]: bugfix was 120 Elo]
WL[621.495];B[pf]BL[592.566];W[og]
C[pasky [2d\]: what was it? :)
ibd [7k\]: woow]
WL[619.068]
;B[ng]BL[586.595];W[of]WL[614.109];B[oe]BL[580.69];W[pe]WL[607.386];B[qf]BL[572.428];W[ne]
C[mmueller [-\]: bug in pruning some good atari moves by mistake]
WL[605.533];B[od]BL[564.522];W[nf]
C[pasky [2d\]: ah, interesting]
WL[603.071];B[nd]BL[559.175];W[ri]
C[mmueller [-\]: else-part attached to the wrong if()
pasky [2d\]: hehe
Aloriless [5k?\]: so there is not that much difference between \
944 and 1007?]
WL[599.551]
;B[me]BL[550.905];W[mf]WL[596.066];B[mg]BL[543.283];W[lf]
C[mmueller [-\]: no, mainly cleanup I think]
WL[590.817];B[rn]BL[535.7];W[nm]WL[583.398];B[nn]
C[mmueller [-\]: we want to do a 0.5 release, so lots of cleanup, \
no new features]
BL[527.971];W[em]WL[575.744];B[fp]BL[519.943];W[gp]WL[570.984]
;B[eq]BL[512.088];W[fo]WL[566.218];B[ep]BL[504.686];W[gq]WL[563.207];B[er]BL[497.447];W[mm]
C[mmueller [-\]: Fuego thinks 62% now]
WL[558.576];B[lm]BL[489.573];W[mn]WL[554.441];B[mo]
C[ibd [7k\]: bad ladder again?]
BL[481.789];W[ln]
C[pasky [2d\]: 37%]
WL[550.766]
;B[kn]BL[475.11];W[lo]
C[mmueller [-\]: so they agree :)]
WL[547.064];B[lp]
C[CGBSpender [-\]: heh]
BL[469.016];W[ko]WL[543.036];B[kp]BL[463.882];W[jo]WL[539.553];B[go]BL[459.04];W[ho]WL[534.158];B[io]BL[451.579];W[no]WL[529.654]
;B[mp]BL[444.338];W[on]WL[523.692];B[jn]BL[436.828];W[in]WL[516.005];B[jp]BL[429.674];W[nn]WL[511.976];B[np]BL[423.768];W[pn]WL[507.888];B[gn]BL[416.164];W[hn]WL[505.919]
;B[rm]BL[409.421];W[op]WL[500.96];B[oq]BL[401.972];W[pq]WL[496.83];B[or]BL[394.374];W[pp]WL[493.966];B[km]BL[387.072];W[jm]WL[489.858];B[fn]BL[379.583];W[eo]WL[484.902]
;B[en]BL[372.104];W[do]WL[480.62];B[dn]BL[364.743];W[co]WL[476.423];B[hp]BL[357.908];W[gm]WL[470.214];B[hq]BL[350.686];W[cn]WL[465.854];B[fr]BL[343.563];W[fm]WL[461.34]
;B[gr]BL[336.394];W[rp]WL[456.043];B[qq]
C[ibd [7k\]: l8 ?]
BL[329.28];W[qo]WL[451.907];B[ro]BL[322.252];W[rq]
C[CGBSpender [-\]: to go where next ? :)]
WL[449.26];B[qr]BL[315.463];W[pr]WL[447.297];B[rr]BL[310.248];W[cc]WL[443.781]
;B[ps]BL[303.298];W[nr]
C[CGBSpender [-\]: ouchie]
WL[439.95];B[po]BL[296.228];W[kl]WL[436.391];B[oo]BL[290.924];W[qb]WL[432.95];B[rc]BL[284.261];W[qc]WL[429.53];B[rd]BL[278.045];W[ob]WL[424.629]
;B[qe]BL[271.862];W[pd]WL[422.587];B[rb]BL[266.037];W[mb]WL[417.862];B[mc]BL[259.564];W[oc]
C[ibd [7k\]: pretty close?]
WL[413.75];B[lb]BL[253.278];W[nc]
C[pasky [2d\]: 30%]
WL[410.278];B[md]BL[247.37];W[la]WL[406.733]
;B[ma]BL[241.174];W[na]WL[403.25];B[ka]BL[235.475];W[ma]WL[400.202];B[kb]BL[229.887];W[fc]WL[395.585];B[ec]BL[223.546];W[eb]WL[389.007];B[db]BL[217.328];W[dc]
C[pasky [2d\]: 21%
mmueller [-\]: Thanks for the game
pasky [2d\]: thank you
maproomad [-\]: a bit early to resign?]
WL[385.004])
