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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go version 12.001]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[Zen19]
PW[pachi2]
DT[2010-03-07]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
TM[1740]
RU[Chinese]
RE[B+Resign]
BR[2d]
WR[2k]
OT[25/30 Canadian]
C[pachi2 [2k\]: GTP Engine for pachi2 (white): Pachi UCT Engine \
version 5.99 (Dochi-devel): I'm playing UCT. When I'm losing, \
I will resign, if I think I win, I play until you pass. Anyone \
can send me 'winrate' in private chat to get my assessment of \
the position.
Zen19 [2d\]: GTP Engine for Zen19 (black): Zen version 5.3]
CA[UTF-8];B[pd]BL[1721.378];W[kg]
C[krakengo [1d\]: wow
krakengo [1d\]: i like w's style
yush [17k\]: nice moyo!]
WL[1704.801];B[dp]BL[1706.533];W[qh]WL[1669.764];B[pp]BL[1688.4];W[gq]WL[1635.133];B[dd]
C[pasky [1d?\]: :)
pasky [1d?\]: w probably doesn't stand a chance though]
BL[1669.2];W[nq]WL[1604.144]
;B[pn]BL[1650.816];W[nc]WL[1571.113];B[pg]BL[1632.313];W[oi]WL[1552.592];B[iq]BL[1615.004];W[kq]WL[1532.918];B[cn]BL[1596.191];W[hc]WL[1503.117];B[qg]BL[1578.425];W[in]WL[1472.762]
;B[gd]BL[1559.819];W[gg]WL[1443.422];B[ho]BL[1545.341];W[io]WL[1433.236];B[hp]BL[1528.723];W[gm]WL[1422.339];B[hd]BL[1519.493];W[gc]WL[1400.183];B[ic]BL[1501.078];W[ib]WL[1390.333]
;B[fc]BL[1482.893];W[fb]WL[1359.506];B[ig]BL[1470.245];W[ec]WL[1344.633];B[fd]BL[1460.367];W[jc]WL[1335.056];B[dg]BL[1451.476];W[if]WL[1305.855];B[hf]BL[1433.409];W[hg]WL[1296.37]
;B[jf]BL[1417.521];W[ih]WL[1286.923];B[jg]BL[1408.396];W[jh]WL[1277.448];B[pi]BL[1390.577];W[ph]WL[1268.195];B[oh]BL[1374.344];W[qi]WL[1267.232];B[pj]BL[1358.274];W[rg]WL[1266.288]
;B[rf]BL[1342.299];W[og]WL[1256.56];B[nh]BL[1333.607];W[qj]WL[1246.493];B[rh]BL[1316.155];W[pk]WL[1236.84];B[oj]BL[1299.959];W[ni]WL[1235.841];B[qk]BL[1291.715];W[ri]WL[1225.876]
;B[nk]BL[1275.229];W[ng]WL[1202.955];B[mh]BL[1267.157];W[mi]WL[1193.216];B[lg]BL[1252.975];W[lh]WL[1183.54];B[mg]BL[1237.529];W[kf]WL[1154.581];B[mf]BL[1228.928];W[rk]WL[1135.119]
;B[je]BL[1216.199];W[ke]WL[1117.671];B[ql]BL[1199.168];W[sh]WL[1108.435];B[db]BL[1187.794];W[li]WL[1091.762];B[jd]BL[1171.029];W[qf]WL[1076.726];B[pf]BL[1155.538];W[qe]WL[1075.758]
;B[pe]BL[1145.034];W[ne]WL[1036.432];B[re]BL[1133.584];W[qm]WL[1020.073];B[pl]BL[1118.994];W[pm]WL[988.024];B[om]BL[1103.039];W[rl]WL[987.025];B[ok]BL[1089.493];W[on]WL[986.088]
;B[nm]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: pachis play looks a little unaccomplished next \
to zen]
BL[1074.787];W[eb]WL[942.892];B[nf]BL[1067.077];W[kd]WL[929.206];B[dc]
C[pasky [1d?\]: :)
pasky [1d?\]: indeed]
BL[1052.058];W[ed]WL[916.623];B[ee]BL[1036.248];W[fe]WL[915.651];B[ge]
C[telchar [-\]: zen...]
BL[1028.322];W[ie]
C[krakengo [1d\]: ^^
gogonuts [4d\]: nice move here]
WL[885.727]
;B[id]BL[1020.636];W[de]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: oh, not so nice]
WL[873.902];B[ef]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: i made the same error as pachi
telchar [-\]: zen is a showman]
BL[1013.168];W[qn]WL[837.529];B[jb]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: wow
krakengo [1d\]: ouch]
BL[1005.72];W[nn]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: excellent tenuki]
WL[819.632];B[mn]BL[990.2];W[mm]WL[808.787];B[ml]BL[976.079];W[lm]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: interessting fight here]
WL[795.076]
;B[kc]BL[962.07];W[nl]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: w o8?
gogonuts [4d\]: yupp
krakengo [1d\]: go !!]
WL[784.635];B[fo]BL[946.897];W[ol]WL[774.535];B[hn]
C[max777 [3k\]: bots very strong at tenuki :)
gogonuts [4d\]: L17 was a pretty big mistake imo]
BL[934.847];W[hm]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: w seems to be back in the game]
WL[749.072];B[ld]
C[telchar [-\]: pretty big yose though]
BL[921.935];W[le]WL[739.584];B[me]BL[910.12];W[lc]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: another interesting fight]
WL[738.625]
;B[md]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: bots are so unafraid :-)]
BL[902.565];W[cq]WL[723.874];B[dq]BL[889.574];W[ce]WL[706.52];B[cg]BL[874.98];W[cc]
C[telchar [-\]: funny]
WL[696.232];B[cb]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: nothing there it seems]
BL[862.063];W[dr]
C[rs220675 [1d\]: who's leading?]
WL[679.697];B[er]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: b i think
goIngo [?\]: who is reading?
pasky [1d?\]: probably b
goIngo [?\]: ;-)
gogonuts [4d\]: but pachi redeemed its honor]
BL[854.287];W[bb]WL[653.621]
;B[bc]
C[krakengo [1d\]: start ko
goodminton [-\]: who is pleading? just to join ;-)
goIngo [?\]: whi is feeding?]
BL[847.022];W[kb]
C[goIngo [?\]: who
gogonuts [4d\]: who is fleeing?]
WL[626.11];B[jc]
C[goodminton [-\]: whi instead of bla
goIngo [?\]: fleeing is not perfect
goIngo [?\]: good remark godminton]
BL[834.27];W[pb]
C[goodminton [-\]: flooding perhaps]
WL[602.462];B[mc]
C[krakengo [1d\]: R17 it
krakengo [1d\]: don't think
goIngo [?\]: or from awale: who is seeding?
goodminton [-\]: thanks for the lesser o]
BL[825.153];W[ej]
C[krakengo [1d\]: :/
goIngo [?\]: you are wellcome
gogonuts [4d\]: who is leaching?]
WL[580.339];B[rc]
C[goodminton [-\]:  has that got to do with wells
goIngo [?\]: no]
BL[809.399];W[cr]
C[goIngo [?\]: it is traditional form of welcome
goIngo [?\]: and counterbalance for the missing o
krakengo [1d\]: :-[]
WL[560.514];B[cp]BL[796.879];W[bp]
C[krakengo [1d\]: w missed good chances]
WL[553.818]
;B[bo]
C[telchar [-\]: ko
goodminton [-\]: wilt though speak a kinder language than?
krakengo [1d\]: can they find it ?]
BL[784.697];W[bd]
C[goodminton [-\]: ok bakc to the game
goIngo [?\]: We will try so.]
WL[533.089];B[cd]
C[goIngo [?\]: at least pluralis majestatis]
BL[774.481];W[eq]
C[goodminton [-\]: spinning nonsense (english-german joined joke)]
WL[511.454];B[fq]BL[767.349];W[fr]WL[498.468];B[ep]BL[760.173];W[es]
C[goIngo [?\]: not spinning - creative phase transition]
WL[497.486];B[eq]BL[753.127];W[ac]WL[491.582]
;B[be]
C[krakengo [1d\]: are you nerds or something ?
goodminton [-\]: too complic8ed]
BL[743.924];W[ap]
C[goIngo [?\]: no, we stand to the floor with all three feet]
WL[475.953];B[ar]
C[telchar [-\]: hehe
krakengo [1d\]: i see.
gogonuts [4d\]: just beause we're watching bots on our sunday \
evening?
goIngo [?\]: I am from Mars]
BL[736.977];W[br]
C[goIngo [?\]: I am only on a visit here]
WL[455.801];B[ao]BL[730.187];W[mb]
C[yush [17k\]: dont you have internet on mars?
goIngo [?\]: or do you say wesit?]
WL[450.358];B[lb]
C[goIngo [?\]: we had flatrate]
BL[722.67];W[ir]
C[goodminton [-\]: dont you talk about my third foot in the open \
please
gogonuts [4d\]: a4 lost a ko in the cornber for pachi
goIngo [?\]: but then the rover got stuck]
WL[443.14];B[hr]BL[709.718];W[gr]
C[goIngo [?\]: I meant my foot only]
WL[437.654]
;B[hq]
C[Aloriless [?\]: ping time is horrible to Mars
goIngo [?\]: yes, whom do you tell this]
BL[703.014];W[jr]WL[425.712];B[gs]BL[695.927];W[hs]
C[goIngo [?\]: but we have 24 h 19 min each day]
WL[418.144];B[is]
C[telchar [-\]: and 19min lag
goIngo [?\]: or was it even 24h 40min?
goIngo [?\]: yes, but intranet is fine]
BL[688.66];W[qr]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: pachi misshandled his corner ajis, but w is still \
in the game, at some point w must have been leading]
WL[399.665];B[bq]BL[676.857];W[aq]
C[goodminton [-\]: forgotten how long our hour was too long on earth]
WL[394.551];B[bq]
C[goIngo [?\]: according to SE it was leading big]
BL[669.678];W[rb]WL[389.532]
;B[qc]
C[goIngo [?\]: by 48 points or so
telchar [-\]: pachi lost his mind, he thinks he's way behind
gogonuts [4d\]: impressive :-)
Aloriless [?\]: don't trust SE unless you load it locally and \
change rules to japanese]
BL[663.151];W[dl]WL[375.624];B[jp]
C[goIngo [?\]: yes, SE is a tragedy]
BL[651.979];W[kp]WL[370.776];B[fm]BL[645.416];W[fl]WL[365.871];B[jo]BL[638.59];W[qb]WL[357.548];B[nb]BL[627.993];W[ob]
C[godenuit [5k\]: what is SE, please?]
WL[350.55]
;B[ma]
C[telchar [-\]: guestimator
krakengo [1d\]: a curse]
BL[621.698];W[js]
C[goIngo [?\]: score estimator]
WL[345.625];B[hs]
C[godenuit [5k\]: ok thx
gogonuts [4d\]: score exterminator
godenuit [5k\]: ha]
BL[615.116];W[ae]
C[godenuit [5k\]: good]
WL[329.486];B[ad]BL[608.866];W[hb]WL[328.42];B[ga]BL[602.681];W[bd]WL[327.468];B[bf]
C[goIngo [?\]: we have only go* participants in discussion now
telchar [-\]: oh you think so]
BL[596.572];W[go]
C[krakengo [1d\]: *go allowed ? ^^]
WL[311.123]
;B[gn]
C[goIngo [?\]: ok, you may join us]
BL[590.394];W[ca]WL[294.082];B[ad]
C[goIngo [?\]: telchar, where is your praefix?]
BL[584.252];W[bp]WL[285.514];B[ap]
C[ibd [7k?\]: you mean postfix?
krakengo [1d\]: lost in translation ?]
BL[578.115];W[sb]WL[270.02];B[oa]BL[571.985];W[bd]WL[269.049];B[ba]
C[goIngo [?\]: gotel is russion for hotel]
BL[565.997];W[cc]
C[goIngo [?\]: russian]
WL[264.758]
;B[da]BL[556.078];W[ea]
C[goIngo [?\]: gotelchair wouzld be nice]
WL[263.782];B[bc]
C[goodminton [-\]: double gos lead]
BL[550.165];W[ra]WL[262.802];B[pa]BL[538.185];W[cc]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: b19 was a severe blunder by zen
krakengo [1d\]: wow]
WL[258.684];B[om]BL[528.459];W[ca]
C[krakengo [1d\]: !!
godenuit [5k\]: hiii]
WL[254.691];B[nm]BL[521.792];W[nl]
C[krakengo [1d\]: eeeeeek
goodminton [-\]: uups
gogonuts [4d\]: and kill :-)
ibd [7k?\]: pachi giving zen a run for its money]
WL[253.703]
;B[ol]BL[512.804];W[mk]
C[goIngo [?\]: zen 5.3 seems to be unexpectedly weak
krakengo [1d\]: great
gogonuts [4d\]: pachi is winning]
WL[252.759];B[ln]
C[ibd [7k?\]: nice insta-responses too]
BL[506.891];W[km]WL[249.105];B[kn]BL[501.009];W[lk]
C[goIngo [?\]: hopefully time is enough]
WL[242.991];B[qq]
C[goodminton [-\]: zen has its weaknesses]
BL[495.035];W[or]
C[krakengo [1d\]: much aji in corner though
gogonuts [4d\]: b19 was terrible, b had to play c14 or d14
goIngo [?\]: perhaps 5.3 more than earlier versions]
WL[229.904];B[np]BL[488.406];W[po]WL[226.409]
;B[oq]
C[ibd [7k?\]: you can't tell after 4 games]
BL[477.811];W[mq]
C[telchar [-\]: I still love you Zen
gogonuts [4d\]: lol]
WL[222.919];B[pr]BL[472.227];W[ps]WL[221.971];B[pq]BL[466.424];W[rr]WL[218.144];B[rq]
C[goodminton [-\]: its about 8p now]
BL[460.191];W[os]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: zen getting mean]
WL[210.973];B[mo]BL[453.055];W[jn]WL[209.962]
;B[ko]
C[goIngo [?\]: 8p ???
goodminton [-\]: perhaps bot affection
krakengo [1d\]: T2]
BL[443.817];W[mp]WL[198.258];B[no]BL[436.184];W[oo]WL[197.27];B[op]
C[goodminton [-\]: b 8p in the lead 15 moves ago
goIngo [?\]: ah, 8 points]
BL[430.92];W[bl]WL[182.724];B[qo]BL[425.732];W[pn]
C[godenuit [5k\]: zen is about 8p, can you explain that, please?]
WL[179.224];B[ro]BL[418.252];W[rm]WL[175.536]
;B[cj]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: 8points ahead :-)]
BL[412.935];W[bj]
C[godenuit [5k\]:  he is not just 2d?]
WL[171.861];B[ck]
C[goodminton [-\]: 8p not 8p ^^]
BL[407.852];W[jq]
C[godenuit [5k\]:  and at quick time 
goIngo [?\]: we will see time crime now]
WL[166.116];B[ip]
C[Chimp [1d?\]: zen is 8p on small board
godenuit [5k\]: ok thx]
BL[398.388];W[cl]
C[godenuit [5k\]: ah ok
godenuit [5k\]:  i see
ibd [7k?\]: zen is 8p on 5x5 or so]
WL[157.292];B[fg]
C[daladim [1d\]: why is the byo yomi so weird ?]
BL[393.044];W[gf]
C[godenuit [5k\]: good]
WL[152.583];B[fi]
C[goIngo [?\]: to make sure that 1 hour suffices in total
daladim [1d\]: i see]
BL[384.57];W[gi]
C[Aloriless [?\]: ibd: more like 7x7
telchar [-\]: I am 8p on 4*4]
WL[142.111]
;B[jm]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: its practically suddendeath, but the opponent \
can win win endless bs in the end]
BL[375.221];W[ff]WL[138.607];B[bk]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: cant win
krakengo [1d\]: crazy]
BL[370.037];W[fh]
C[goIngo [?\]: Black is back now
goodminton [-\]: i will use 8m for moku next ;-)]
WL[124.992];B[eh]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: good grief]
BL[364.65];W[eg]WL[116.552];B[ei]
C[ibd [7k?\]: ?]
BL[359.613];W[bi]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: cant kill]
WL[104.936];B[fj]
C[krakengo [1d\]: greedy w]
BL[351.183];W[ci]WL[96.978]
;B[ek]BL[346.191];W[el]
C[goodminton [-\]: w is leading no]
WL[96.053];B[ak]BL[340.964];W[af]WL[92.781];B[ag]BL[335.867];W[cf]
C[krakengo [1d\]: it was]
WL[81.711];B[bg]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: pachi was leading big time]
BL[326.742];W[fk]WL[71.424];B[dj]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: but zen is back now]
BL[321.681];W[df]WL[63.158]
;B[gj]BL[316.909];W[dk]
C[telchar [-\]: come on, bots !]
WL[56.386];B[ik]BL[311.059];W[di]
C[krakengo [1d\]: dang
ibd [7k?\]: what is going on]
WL[49.649];B[ej]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: this has a retro bot feeling :-)
telchar [-\]: great lulz]
BL[304.814];W[hk]WL[43.526];B[hj]BL[299.771];W[ij]
C[ibd [7k?\]: pachi is a pretty cool guy?]
WL[38.199];B[jl]BL[294.966];W[il]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: ublimited crazyness]
WL[36.414]
;B[jk]
C[Aloriless [?\]: too little thinking time for pachi2?]
BL[290.074];W[gk]
C[krakengo [1d\]: resurrection !!]
WL[32.304];B[ll]BL[285.017];W[kk]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: pachi destroyed now]
WL[31.329];B[kl]
C[telchar [-\]: pachi doesn't afraid of anything]
BL[280.022];W[an]WL[26.303];B[dh]BL[275.269];W[al]
C[goIngo [?\]: pachi in socks now
ibd [7k?\]: eh plays a6 and doesn't afraid of anything, yes]
WL[21.877];B[bn]
C[pasky [1d?\]: hmm]
BL[270.418];W[em]WL[18.178]
;B[ii]BL[265.483];W[jj]
C[pasky [1d?\]: looks like time management indeed has problems
gogonuts [4d\]: rsign time]
WL[16.502];B[ji]BL[260.418];W[kj]WL[15.518];B[hh]BL[254.98];W[kh]WL[14.477];B[fn]
C[krakengo [1d\]: died in gote
gogonuts [4d\]: good grief]
BL[249.906];W[gh]WL[11.709];B[hi]BL[245.008];W[ki]WL[9.938]
;B[ia]BL[239.926];W[gb]
C[goodminton [-\]: interesting to and fro]
WL[8.4];B[sr]BL[234.714];W[ai]WL[6.85];B[ha]BL[229.593];W[im]WL[5.407];B[sf]
C[Aloriless [?\]: pasky: balance extra time usage by giving it by \
default less time?]
BL[224.452];W[mj]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: you could think zen dominated all the time, just \
looking at the board now
telchar [-\]: where is your god now ?]
WL[3.833];B[sg]BL[219.136];W[ad]WL[2.248]
;B[rh]BL[213.345];W[si]
C[ibd [7k?\]: :)]
WL[1.174];B[sj]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: killing everything
goIngo [?\]: good show from both sides
pasky [1d?\]: aloriless: somehow, it was working well at one point
gogonuts [4d\]: yes
krakengo [1d\]: that was funny
krakengo [1d\]: almost makes me want to program a bot
pasky [1d?\]: hmm
goodminton [-\]: perhaps a bot is better showing another bots \
weaknesses sometimes
gogonuts [4d\]: i think programing a bot is a valley of tears \
:-)
krakengo [1d\]: hence the almost ;-)
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
goodminton [-\]: sounds you tried it
pasky [1d?\]: so this is second game in row where pachi was winning \
against very strong opponent...
pasky [1d?\]: ...then got into time pressure and lost
gogonuts [4d\]: toobad
gogonuts [4d\]: a really good show
gogonuts [4d\]: excluding the fuseki
goodminton [-\]: should have ask for extra time
ibd [7k?\]: are recompiles allowed between rounds?
pasky [1d?\]: dunno
krakengo [1d\]: i suppose they are not
ibd [7k?\]: you could quickly reduce default time usage
pasky [1d?\]: me? me not, i'm not running this pachi :)
ibd [7k?\]: oh, right
krakengo [1d\]: what's next ?
gogonuts [4d\]: there is hope for pachi]
BL[207.773])
