(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[840]OT[25/60 Canadian]
PW[Zen19]PB[ManyFaces2]WR[3d]DT[2010-10-10]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[ManyFaces2 [-\]: GTP Engine for ManyFaces2 (black): Many Faces of Go version 12 (2008 world champion), playing at level 1 kyu (19x19), 4 Dan (9x9). Uses Many Faces' knowledge combined with Monte Carlo evaluation. Free evaluation download at www.smart-games.com. iPhone/iPod Igowin app has this full engine.
Zen19 [3d\]: GTP Engine for Zen19 (white): Zen version 6.3
ThePok [?\]: do it one more time mf!
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[839.046]
;W[pp]WL[832.927]
;B[dp]BL[837.057]
;W[cd]WL[826.761]
;B[ec]BL[834.866]
;W[de]WL[819.65]
;B[fd]BL[831.634]
;W[jp]WL[812.669]
;B[hq]BL[826.953]
;W[qj]WL[805.725]
;B[qg]BL[821.433]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: who is leading the tourney atm?
]
;W[kc]WL[798.867]
;B[ic]BL[817.288]C[ThePok [?\]: manyfaces
]
;W[nc]WL[793.123]C[Nefeste [5k\]: motherfaces of Goe
]
;B[mp]BL[808.644]
;W[qc]WL[786.243]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: kk
]
;B[pc]BL[803.649]
;W[qd]WL[779.382]C[ThePok [?\]: i think mf is male
ThePok [?\]: ;D
]
;B[qe]BL[796.823]
;W[pe]WL[772.57]
;B[oe]BL[787.583]
;W[pf]WL[765.939]
;B[qf]BL[777.667]
;W[of]WL[759.212]
;B[nd]BL[767.733]
;W[pb]WL[752.52]
;B[nf]BL[761.419]
;W[og]WL[745.914]
;B[ng]BL[755.258]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: wow
]
;W[oh]WL[739.892]
;B[nh]BL[749.202]
;W[oj]WL[733.244]C[newlife [3d\]: brave moves?
Tsuijin [1d\]: many faces goof there?
]
;B[ni]BL[742.074]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: or is that good?
]
;W[oi]WL[727.535]
;B[mn]BL[731.935]C[newlife [3d\]: I dun think it's good
]
;W[cn]WL[721.033]
;B[pm]BL[721.674]
;W[mk]WL[714.556]
;B[qq]BL[712.894]C[Szyszka [1k\]: many faces is ambitious, doesn't like easy wins
Tsuijin [1d\]: zen actually playing really really solid
]
;W[md]WL[708.049]
;B[oc]BL[704.887]C[Nefeste [5k\]: w kills r15 seems very big..
]
;W[ob]WL[701.597]
;B[me]BL[696.657]C[Nefeste [5k\]: poor mf
JLackland [5k\]: p17 is horrible
]
;W[ld]WL[695.139]C[newlife [3d\]: p17 just too too bad
Tsuijin [1d\]: lolol
]
;B[kf]BL[686.688]
;W[pq]WL[688.773]
;B[qp]BL[680.748]
;W[no]WL[682.889]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: ok this corner will be cool
ibd [5k\]: these bots play really good fuseki
Tsuijin [1d\]: might actually learn from bot
]
;B[mo]BL[670.778]
;W[qo]WL[676.494]
;B[pr]BL[661.959]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: well, this fuseki was certainly unusual
]
;W[or]WL[670.149]C[Szyszka [1k\]: why is p17 bad? these stones coudn't be saved
]
;B[rr]BL[654.061]
;W[ps]WL[663.892]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: *shrug*i
]
;B[qr]BL[648.822]C[Omniscient [2k?\]:  guess it's at worst, a wasted ko threat
]
;W[om]WL[658.5]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: wow
]
;B[pn]BL[641.898]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: zen is playing some good stuff
newlife [3d\]: it worths around 40 pts on the top right?
]
;W[po]WL[652.248]
;B[on]BL[637.53]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: strong humans instinctively see that kind of move and flinch
]
;W[nn]WL[645.966]
;B[nm]BL[631.162]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: in our experience, such a move is almost almost always bad
]
;W[mm]WL[640.367]
;B[ol]BL[625.868]
;W[np]WL[634.176]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: whereas some other bad shapes, we let slide because we occasionally make use of them
]
;B[ml]BL[621.21]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: but P17 is just 100% bad to us
]
;W[lm]WL[628.388]C[Nefeste [5k\]: w good at killing things
]
;B[ll]BL[617.207]
;W[km]WL[622.539]
;B[mq]BL[610.176]C[newlife [3d\]: n3
]
;W[rp]WL[616.471]C[Nitrogen [1k\]: this a tournament game?
]
;B[kl]BL[603.79]
;W[jm]WL[611.113]
;B[jr]BL[592.915]C[goIngo [-\]: 20-round bot tournament
]
;W[ik]WL[604.964]C[Nitrogen [1k\]: is this robot raelly 3d?
goIngo [-\]: round 15
]
;B[jl]BL[584.885]
;W[nk]WL[598.919]
;B[nl]BL[581.04]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: they gotta play each other 5 more rounds?
goIngo [-\]: 3d kgs
]
;W[il]WL[593.646]C[goIngo [-\]: against hard opposition
]
;B[im]BL[577.216]
;W[hm]WL[588.256]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: play it and find out :P
]
;B[in]BL[573.965]
;W[hn]WL[582.649]
;B[jn]BL[569.09]C[goIngo [-\]: 5 more rounds ch-system
]
;W[io]WL[576.756]C[newlife [3d\]: I played the 2 bots, for me they are not easily
]
;B[kn]BL[565.064]C[DeathWind [1d\]: bot match o:
]
;W[eo]WL[570.875]
;B[rn]BL[560.102]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: this is actually a good result for white
Tsuijin [1d\]: like ideal
]
;W[ro]WL[565.045]
;B[gk]BL[548.638]
;W[gl]WL[559.257]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: b's moyo i now turned into just those 4 stones
Tsuijin [1d\]: *is
]
;B[fk]BL[536.842]
;W[ck]WL[553.362]
;B[fi]BL[524.756]C[newlife [3d\]: w is gonna win this
]
;W[fq]WL[547.59]
;B[gp]BL[513.657]
;W[dr]WL[541.911]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: yah
]
;B[dh]BL[502.769]
;W[cg]WL[536.169]
;B[ch]BL[495.91]
;W[fe]WL[530.514]C[Tsuijin [1d\]:  i always thought bots had to cream for center influence
Tsuijin [1d\]: *scream
]
;B[ge]BL[485.345]
;W[eg]WL[524.907]C[ibd [5k\]: lol
]
;B[dg]BL[480.304]
;W[db]WL[519.372]
;B[cf]BL[470.086]
;W[df]WL[514.269]
;B[eb]BL[461.787]
;W[bf]WL[508.541]C[DeathWind [1d\]: even idiotbot is in the tournament, that is funny as hell
]
;B[bg]BL[457.879]
;W[be]WL[503.313]
;B[fg]BL[446.673]
;W[ff]WL[497.852]
;B[gf]BL[438.529]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: idiotbot is like a control
]
;W[fh]WL[492.339]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: what if randomness played
]
;B[gg]BL[433.755]
;W[eh]WL[486.824]
;B[ei]BL[430.157]
;W[gh]WL[481.486]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: but it doesn't make any difference in this case
]
;B[hh]BL[426.245]
;W[gi]WL[476.155]
;B[hi]BL[422.011]
;W[gj]WL[470.79]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: in iterated prisoner's dilemna games, it does matter if you throw a random bot in there
]
;B[hj]BL[418.553]
;W[hk]WL[465.845]
;B[fj]BL[413.821]
;W[ef]WL[460.39]
;B[cj]BL[409.085]
;W[dj]WL[455.077]
;B[dk]BL[401.757]
;W[dl]WL[449.863]
;B[ek]BL[398.301]
;W[bj]WL[444.666]
;B[ci]BL[394.905]
;W[bl]WL[439.671]C[Omniscient [2k?\]: looks pretty dead to me
]
;B[bi]BL[388.958]
;W[ah]WL[434.941]
;B[aj]BL[384.727]
;W[bk]WL[430.5]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: white shape isn't perfect i think
]
;B[ag]BL[379.138]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: but yah probably dead
]
;W[ai]WL[425.437]
;B[bb]BL[372.13]
;W[cb]WL[420.353]
;B[bc]BL[366.276]C[ibd [5k\]: strong
]
;W[cc]WL[415.294]
;B[dd]BL[358.249]
;W[ba]WL[410.91]
;B[fm]BL[353.102]
;W[fn]WL[406.536]
;B[em]BL[349.659]
;W[go]WL[401.613]
;B[dn]BL[343.942]
;W[do]WL[397.197]
;B[co]BL[340.585]
;W[dm]WL[392.275]
;B[en]BL[337.285]
;W[cp]WL[387.524]
;B[bo]BL[330.597]
;W[bn]WL[383.324]
;B[bp]BL[325.317]
;W[cq]WL[378.487]C[xell [2k\]: both as i understand, are top bots?
]
;B[an]BL[320.15]C[ML [3d\]: will end soon
]
;W[bm]WL[374.084]C[ibd [5k\]: yes xell
]
;B[bq]BL[314.904]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: maybe both top bots
]
;W[br]WL[369.255]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: but zen19 outclassed manfyaces by alot this game
]
;B[af]BL[306.505]
;W[ae]WL[364.871]
;B[dq]BL[300.017]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: like in strategy and reading
]
;W[cr]WL[360.359]
;B[bh]BL[295.667]C[WhitePawn [2k\]: is there really such a big diffrence between these bots?
]
;W[ai]WL[356.145]
;B[da]BL[288.329]
;W[fp]WL[351.898]C[ML [3d\]: yes
]
;B[ab]BL[283.03]C[ibd [5k\]: zen is maybe 0.5 stones stronger
ibd [5k\]: not so much
]
;W[oq]WL[347.643]
;B[rd]BL[275.5]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: I heard Zen19 win a 2nd runner up in a Computer competition 
]
;W[rc]WL[343.043]C[ThePok [?\]: zen maybe wins 60 out of 100 agains mf
]
;B[ri]BL[270.519]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: almost the strongest Bot in world ?
]
;W[lr]WL[338.496]
;B[kq]BL[265.89]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: Erica the 1st 
]
;W[ad]WL[334.254]C[WhitePawn [2k\]: erica?
]
;B[rj]BL[259.286]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: taiwan's bot
]
;W[mr]WL[330.008]C[goIngo [-\]: erica by aja huang
]
;B[jj]BL[252.728]
;W[je]WL[325.961]
;B[jd]BL[245.595]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: zen is invent by japanese
]
;W[ke]WL[321.854]C[goIngo [-\]: erica is ph.d. project
]
;B[jf]BL[240.241]C[Z3R0 [5k\]: why erica not play?
]
;W[ie]WL[317.672]
;B[hd]BL[231.103]C[goIngo [-\]: the author has to finish thesis
]
;W[if]WL[313.342]
;B[ig]BL[228.797]
;W[kr]WL[309.175]
;B[jq]BL[226.707]
;W[lq]WL[305.03]
;B[kp]BL[224.606]
;W[rm]WL[300.784]C[ThePok [?\]: will he continue devlopment?
]
;B[qn]BL[218.804]
;W[sn]WL[296.605]
;B[re]BL[213.754]
;W[od]WL[292.651]
;B[hp]BL[209.291]
;W[ho]WL[288.891]
;B[jo]BL[204.042]
;W[ip]WL[285.203]
;B[jb]BL[198.283]
;W[iq]WL[281.289]
;B[ir]BL[194.658]
;W[hr]WL[277.593]C[Nitrogen [1k\]: ?
]
;B[hs]BL[191.059]C[xell [2k\]: intersting, they play quite fast
]
;W[gq]WL[273.558]
;B[lj]BL[185.785]
;W[lk]WL[269.854]
;B[rk]BL[180.593]
;W[qk]WL[266.182]
;B[ql]BL[176.454]
;W[pk]WL[262.598]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: zen win a lot
]
;B[kk]BL[171.774]
;W[ne]WL[258.995]
;B[lf]BL[167.279]
;W[le]WL[255.384]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: race in left side w win right?
]
;B[kb]BL[163.213]
;W[lb]WL[251.812]C[newlife [3d\]: congrat to Zen
]
;B[ij]BL[159.693]
;W[gs]WL[248.206]
;B[la]BL[155.325]
;W[nr]WL[244.672]C[Szyszka [1k\]: well many faces has beaten zen twice today
]
;B[ac]BL[150.927]C[Nitrogen [1k\]: or to whoever made it
]
;W[ce]WL[240.807]
;B[sc]BL[146.917]
;W[ak]WL[237.308]
;B[ed]BL[142.97]
;W[cg]WL[234.007]
;B[rb]BL[138.978]C[Szyszka [1k\]: and will win the tournament
]
;W[qb]WL[230.356]
;B[na]BL[135.131]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: this is the latest version of manyfaces?
]
;W[mf]WL[226.693]
;B[mg]BL[131.783]
;W[me]WL[223.302]
;B[qi]BL[128.308]
;W[sl]WL[219.775]
;B[el]BL[124.812]
;W[gm]WL[216.227]
;B[cm]BL[121.254]
;W[cl]WL[212.732]
;B[am]BL[118.193]
;W[aq]WL[209.627]
;B[js]BL[115.091]
;W[ks]WL[206.626]
;B[pi]BL[112.156]
;W[ej]WL[203.255]
;B[di]BL[110.163]
;W[ca]WL[199.844]
;B[ea]BL[106.518]C[newlife [3d\]: when I started playing go 4 years ago, the strongest bot was gnugo 6k
]
;W[nq]WL[196.442]
;B[hf]BL[103.791]
;W[oo]WL[193.2]
;B[mj]BL[100.963]
;W[ok]WL[190.267]C[Z3R0 [5k\]: no, this is v12
]
;B[mb]BL[98.095]C[Szyszka [1k\]: gnugo was never the strongest bot
]
;W[lc]WL[186.956]
;B[ee]BL[95.318]C[ibd [5k\]: yes it was
]
;W[oc]WL[184.03]
;B[bd]BL[92.624]C[ibd [5k\]: gnugo won several competitions
]
;W[ap]WL[181.047]
;B[fs]BL[90.16]
;W[gr]WL[178.192]
;B[qs]BL[87.632]
;W[os]WL[175.391]
;B[ss]BL[85.197]
;W[sq]WL[172.577]
;B[cf]BL[82.933]
;W[aa]WL[169.757]
;B[bc]BL[82.129]
;W[cg]WL[166.797]
;B[bb]BL[80.135]
;W[aj]WL[164.093]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: mmm
]
;B[bd]BL[78.16]C[ibd [5k\]: wow is this really ko
]
;W[dj]WL[161.551]
;B[dc]BL[76.851]
;W[lp]WL[158.734]
;B[ln]BL[75.903]C[Szyszka [1k\]: go++ and many faces were 2 stones stronger than gnugo
]
;W[ao]WL[156.126]
;B[jk]BL[74.599]
;W[hl]WL[153.643]
;B[he]BL[72.352]
;W[id]WL[151.26]
;B[jc]BL[70.535]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: o
]
;W[ah]WL[148.86]
;B[jg]BL[68.562]C[newlife [3d\]: 4 years ago?
]
;W[sk]WL[146.564]C[Lenneth [2d?\]: look a bit wrong
]
;B[rl]BL[66.772]
;W[sj]WL[144.296]
;B[mc]BL[64.953]C[Szyszka [1k\]: yes
]
;W[si]WL[141.973]
;B[ph]BL[63.415]
;W[sh]WL[139.677]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: wow
]
;B[sd]BL[62.097]
;W[fl]WL[137.451])
