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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:12.020]
SZ[9]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[ManyFaces1]
PW[Zen9]
DT[2010-12-05]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
TM[540]
RU[Chinese]
RE[W+Resign]
BR[2d]
OT[25/60 Canadian]
C[ManyFaces1 [2d\]: GTP Engine for ManyFaces1 (black): Many Faces \
of Go version 12 (2002, 2008, 2010 world champion), playing at \
level 1 dan. Uses Many Faces' knowledge combined with Monte Carlo \
evaluation. Free evaluation download at www.smart-games.com. \
iPhone/iPod Igowin app has this full engine.
Zen9 [?\]: GTP Engine for Zen9 (white): Zen version 6.8
DnFBlitz [1k\]: showdown!
kiss [30k?\]: my money on zen ! :-)]
CA[UTF-8];B[ee]BL[539.859];W[ec]WL[534.724];B[fd]BL[517.085];W[eg]WL[529.477];B[ce]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: c7 looks good for w]
BL[482.543];W[fc]
C[EpicPhail [2k\]: my money on white for most of the programs
gogonuts [5d\]: ok, another miai instead]
WL[502.706];B[cc]BL[467.129];W[gd]
C[just9x9 [-\]: last round w won all the games, is w considered \
favourable?]
WL[460.484]
;B[ge]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: yes
just9x9 [-\]: why so?
DnFBlitz [1k\]: should they change the komi to 6.5 or 5.5 on 9x9?
gogonuts [5d\]: 7 komi probably correct :-)]
BL[452.078];W[hd]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: oh you think it's that little?
gogonuts [5d\]: 6.5 would reverse the problem
DnFBlitz [1k\]: i mean, that little difference]
WL[441.795];B[fh]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: ok
just9x9 [-\]: nah, 7.5 is normal with chinese rules]
BL[435.428];W[fg]
C[just9x9 [-\]: 7 would be better for b
evdw [-\]: 7 == jigo]
WL[428.652];B[he]
C[quicksand [2d\]: the real komi has to be integer. so 7.5 might \
be normal, but it can't be right :)
gogonuts [5d\]: it also a problem for opening books - because \
there is no winning line, the opening book for b can be bad]
BL[410.092];W[gh]WL[415.633];B[hb]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: aui
EpicPhail [2k\]: i think one should add jigo and see what happens \
with komi 7
just9x9 [-\]: h8 is hoping for lots of forcing moves from the \
outside?]
BL[392.537];W[gc]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: since f7 w has had troubles
goIngo [-\]: @gogonuts: you have to tune the o-book by hand]
WL[388.854];B[gb]BL[372.519];W[db]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: but they like to create it automatically with \
deep thinking time
goIngo [-\]: yes and know: "good" authors
goIngo [-\]: do it interactively
just9x9 [-\]: this looks good for w imho]
WL[374.053]
;B[fb]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: h8 was on the vital point
EpicPhail [2k\]: this is all in]
BL[329.772];W[cb]
C[goIngo [-\]: poker-like?]
WL[344.442];B[bb]
C[EpicPhail [2k\]: yes]
BL[315.055];W[ib]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: ko would be enough for b]
WL[332.765];B[ic]BL[290.857];W[hc]
C[goIngo [-\]: you mean sseki ?!]
WL[320.972];B[ch]
C[goIngo [-\]: seki
gogonuts [5d\]: we will see]
BL[253.36];W[hg]
C[EpicPhail [2k\]: winning percentages?]
WL[309.315];B[ie]
C[ZenAuthor [-\]: 73% but i think it is too optimistic]
BL[242.212];W[id]
C[goIngo [-\]: winning percentages is "botty language"]
WL[280.418]
;B[eh]
C[goIngo [-\]: ;-)]
BL[231.752];W[df]WL[269.531];B[de]
C[kiss [30k?\]: uh , w in big trouble]
BL[215.999];W[dh]
C[kiss [30k?\]: g2 seems dead to me
just9x9 [-\]: nah
DnFBlitz [1k\]: are you sure? I only see: "very complicated"]
WL[259.142];B[di]
C[quicksand [2d\]: f2 seems dead]
BL[204.961];W[dg]
C[ibd [4k?\]: h9?
gogonuts [5d\]: i think j5 was silly]
WL[248.475];B[cg]
C[EpicPhail [2k\]: seeming dead is overrated]
BL[175.594];W[ei]WL[238.607];B[fi]BL[167.721];W[gi]
C[kiss [30k?\]: rofl]
WL[213.865]
;B[ha]
C[goIngo [-\]: what was f1?]
BL[158.914];W[fa]
C[ibd [4k?\]: ko threat]
WL[204.64];B[ea]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: f1 was correct]
BL[151.196];W[eb]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: so w cant capture d1]
WL[195.484];B[ig]BL[141.369];W[ih]
C[quicksand [2d\]: this is over
DnFBlitz [1k\]: wouldn't C1 be normal for that?]
WL[186.349];B[ba]
C[ibd [4k?\]: it's gote]
BL[131.594];W[cf]WL[177.296];B[ca]
C[ibd [4k?\]: :p]
BL[123.028];W[da]
C[goIngo [-\]: black is over jordan]
WL[168.358]
;B[ed]
C[ibd [4k?\]: you can't just translate german idioms to english, \
ingo >,<
gogonuts [5d\]: c1 might get into trouble when w cuts with c4,b4,b5]
BL[114.244];W[bf]
C[goIngo [-\]: why not?]
WL[148.042];B[be]BL[106.852];W[dc]
C[ibd [4k?\]: because you make yourself look ridiculous
just9x9 [-\]: nah, it is funny]
WL[140.092];B[bd]
C[just9x9 [-\]: we germans understand :)
goIngo [-\]: yes, I am ridiculous
gogonuts [5d\]: you have to change it slightly: b lack is down \
the river :-)]
BL[97.672];W[bg]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: hm, true gognuts, but if so then E1 will still \
capture D1.  anyhow, doesn't seem so important
goIngo [-\]: and in kisuaheli it has the same meaning
goIngo [-\]: ;-)
just9x9 [-\]: b lack is up? lol]
WL[121.536];B[ff]BL[86.084];W[bh]WL[105.414];B[ae]
C[ibd [4k?\]: j4]
BL[71.818];W[ei]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: i was surprised that "making fire under one's \
ass" is also an english idiom]
WL[91.404]
;B[bc]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: this game proved that bots still arent tactical \
demi-gods on 9*9
kiss [30k?\]: over jordan is cool ......:-)]
BL[62.465];W[dd]WL[80.37];B[gf]
C[goIngo [-\]: kiss, from which country are you?]
BL[55.094];W[gg]
C[kiss [30k?\]: over jordan :-))]
WL[71.037];B[eh]
C[goIngo [-\]: ;-)
kiss [30k?\]: germany]
BL[46.779];W[fh]WL[62.396];B[ii]
C[goIngo [-\]: ;-)]
BL[39.633];W[hi]
C[goIngo [-\]: so you know the traditional meaning]
WL[55.514];B[ai]BL[33.277];W[ci]WL[49.771]
;B[ah]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: A1 -- what a tesuji]
BL[27.971];W[ag]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: b went over the wupper
kiss [30k?\]: hallo ingo]
WL[46.788];B[af]BL[23.774];W[bi]
C[kiss [30k?\]: erst jetzt gesehen]
WL[43.774];B[ai]
C[kiss [30k?\]: grüß dich]
BL[20.083];W[ah]WL[40.775];B[hf]BL[18.615];W[if]
C[gogonuts [5d\]: strange game
goIngo [-\]: wer bist du
kiss [30k?\]: frankie- jena
goIngo [-\]: ach, hallo
kiss [30k?\]: :-)
goIngo [-\]: und warum 30k?
kiss [30k?\]: schlechter geworden :-)
goIngo [-\]: hahaha
gogonuts [5d\]: the mishandling of the top right was especially \
strange
kiss [30k?\]: yes true
goIngo [-\]: Zen is almost through now
goIngo [-\]: 2-points lead
goIngo [-\]: 3 rounfs to go
goIngo [-\]: rounds
kiss [30k?\]: proud of zen
goIngo [-\]: yes, a nice comeback after months of bad news
kiss [30k?\]: which bad news btw ?
kiss [30k?\]: hm, gone]
WL[38.453])
